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Actually you're not "crashing my beliefs" as you've said.
@iEva,
Why don't 'you' get off the Forums so you don't have to see the words that you think I'm over using? If not... Get over it.
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And, no I'm saying from YOUR logic that everything just magically happened without someone creating it. Molecules and stuff got here because God made them. And God was here before we even needed to have time. And nothing needed to be 'made' back then. It's just we think it has to be that way.
Also, actually I'm talking about summer as well. This summer was a colder one as well.
Actually, I'm sort of a nerd about weather. And this was one of the coldest winters for a long time, everywhere where there is normally winter.
You can look "Lucy" up on the internet. It's basically the "missing link" They believe that it's a ape/human. But they found the body parts of it hundreds of miles away from each other.
However I do agree with you about how that beliefs are not 100% without fail. (although that's most likely because God didn't want us to know everything"
But there are some strong supporters of Gods existence. Like the Bible, it was made a LONG time ago, and back then people didn't really just create books they weren't sure just because they wanted to. They based it off facts.
And no it's wasn't toward you, I should have added his name in there, sorry.
Well, it may seem like I'm forcing it. But I'm not trying to.
And you cannot see air, but yet it is there. Also, By the time you are dead, I hope you know it will be too late. He cannot take you back once you die. (just saying. But it IS your choice I guess)
And he is technically not male or female, he's God. And after this earth you WILL need him, unless you want to go to hell. But if you do it's your choice. (although a highly bad one.. But nonetheless your choice still.)
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"And, no I'm saying from YOUR logic that everything just magically happened without someone creating it. Molecules and stuff got here because God made them. And God was here before we even needed to have time. And nothing needed to be 'made' back then. It's just we think it has to be that way."
I was following yours, by saying molecules just came to be for no reason whatsoever- like God. Do I need to repeat this.. again? If God can just happen before time, molecules can form for no reason. God did not make them. Do you have proof? Since you're so keen on proof, where is the proof of that?
"Also, actually I'm talking about summer as well. This summer was a colder one as well."
Not for me. Well, in the beginning anyway. Toward the end of summer, it became really hot.
"Actually, I'm sort of a nerd about weather. And this was one of the coldest winters for a long time, everywhere where there is normally winter. "
Well, you live in London. We live across the planet. Well, maybe not across. I love in the United States, south east (Not Florida).
"You can look "Lucy" up on the internet. It's basically the "missing link" They believe that it's a ape/human. But they found the body parts of it hundreds of miles away from each other."
I have never heard of Lucy, which is odd because wouldn't the school teach you about Lucy while discussing Evolution to back it up? I heard a story of a mermaid being real, but it was just a human with her body so old, her legs grew as one.
"However I do agree with you about how that beliefs are not 100% without fail. (although that's most likely because God didn't want us to know everything"
But there are some strong supporters of Gods existence. Like the Bible, it was made a LONG time ago, and back then people didn't really just create books they weren't sure just because they wanted to. They based it off facts. "
Try looking at an Atheist's POV. I'll look through a Christians, okay?
(This is my POV)
You can't be sure of what people wanted to do/did, because it was many, many years ago. The Bible is a book created by a human (that is what I believe). I don't get why anyone would create it, though, unless it really was God.
"And no it's wasn't toward you, I should have added his name in there, sorry."
Okay.
"Well, it may seem like I'm forcing it. But I'm not trying to. "
I know you aren't, but in its own way it is forcing. You're not TELLING me to believe, you're telling me why I should. But I cannot.
"And you cannot see air, but yet it is there. Also, By the time you are dead, I hope you know it will be too late. He cannot take you back once you die. (just saying. But it IS your choice I guess)"
There's a Heaven and Hell. I'll still know. I will see one of those when I die. Although I believe when we die, we're just lifeless bodies. Our souls dissolve, and we're left in a coma. With no thought. It's not a bad belief, I'm actually content on that idea of death.
"And he is technically not male or female, he's God. And after this earth you WILL need him, unless you want to go to hell. But if you do it's your choice. (although a highly bad one.. But nonetheless your choice still.)"
I don't believe in hell, or Satan/Devil/Lucifer/WhateverYouCallHim, even though between me and Meow we call each other "Satun". If Hell is real, I AM going to hell. I have done a lot worthy of it. Like cyberbullying, but I am not that big of a bully as I was maybe seven months ago. Saying I will go to hell if I don't believe in God is outrageous, in my opinion, because hell cannot be proven real until you die.
Now, by a Christian's POV.
Well, I guess I do understand a bit. You want to see the world as something created by a person (Not a person.. what's the word.. an immortal being? Or just a being? If I say person, I don't mean a human). You believe this person can create anything and humans are his creation, yes? So you believe the world (Earth) is perfect for us. I get that.. honestly, I do. A lot of years back, but not in the Bible times, more like before America, people created religions to calm themselves. To make themselves.. well.. more relaxed on who they are and how they got here. Imagine just popping into this world (Which would be way before America) and not knowing how or what happened. "popping" is not the right word, but I am not good with words.
Imagining a Christian's view makes sense, it does. But look at my point of view. I have to SEE in order to believe. That doesn't mean I believe EVERYTHING I see, I have to also see evidence/proof. stuff like that. Just imagine an average Atheist's POV. Yours makes sense, you believe God created everyone. I DO want God to be real, but I do not believe. I would like an afterlife, but it's not like I'd be "worthy" of Heaven, if there is a Heaven. But sometimes, I imagine there is a Heaven; I imagine my grandparents and my dead pets in Heaven right now, happily among themselves. That keeps me content. So I see where you're coming from, but we are two different people. We believe in different things in different ways. If we try to change the other, we will no longer be ourselves. |
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Nobody was there when he was, but the Bible was the first book of its kind. And the people back then shared stories that even scientists today cannot say are false with facts. So if a book like this is full of lies the why can't scientists say how it's false?
There were a few hot days, but overall it was a nice summer.
And I have weather channels for America/other countries. So I know most of that kind of stuff.
They don't normally tell you the stuff you can easily find fault in, (like Lucy). But some still believe it. And I've never heard the mermaid story. Interesting.
God came to certain people to write different chapters in his book. He gave visions to them telling them what to write. There are actually a lot of people who wrote chapters of the Bible, but all were Christians.
Just because you have done stuff in the past doesn't mean you're going to hell. He forgives you if you ask for it. And if you accept him and believe he is real.
You don't get into Heaven for good works. You get into Heaven for believing in him and loving him, and following his word after you have repented.
And in the Bible it says in the first Book (it is technically all one book but there are little books by different people put together into one- the Bible.)
Anyways, in the first 'book' it says that there were Adam and Eve. (so they didn't just pop into the world and hope to relive themselves of the thought dying) they saw God and believed.
And I really get your point of view as well actually. I am not trying to change you altogether. It's just I would hate for you to go to Hell. :/
So basically, no matter WHAT you have done God will ALWAYS accept you for you. But you do have to be willing to change. He will ALWAYS take you back no matter what you have done. But the problem is you don't know when you will die. So some people just do whatever they want and expect to accept God after they've lived the life they want. But then they die before they have the chance to accept him.
Okay, I'll try and look at your religion if you do for mine. Try reading the Bible.
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Also, I do have to say that I get angry REALLY easily. (and I'm trying to fix that). I didn't really bring out a good view on Christians for ranting and calling you guys morons. Sooo, I'm sorry. |
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"@Neal, would you give someone the chance to get online and actually reply before you say 'Thought not'? It shows how much you want to outsmart everyone when they don't have the chance to say anything."
I did. I'm quite sure that half an hour is MORE than enough time.
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"People are animals. Humans are mammals, which is a type of animal."
.... We... aren't... mammals...... *sighs*
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"Global warming IS real, and I didn't say I didn't believe in it. I said I said I didn't believe it."
Not a great proponent of it, however, I do, indeed, believe we ought to attempt to stop it from occurring.
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"pengs post in a nutshell
OMG WHAT I BELIEVE IS TRUE SO IMA FORCE EVERYONE TO BELIEVE IN IT
OMG THE WAY YOU SAID THAT SENTENCE IS HORRIBLE
OMG YOUR LOGIC IS PUT TOGETHER IN A WAY I DONT LIKE SO ITS OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE
I really dont mean to cause a flame war but your post hurt my brain... >.<"
....... *sighs* Mate, it's called an opinion. Take it or leave it. No need to caterwaul over it.
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"Post boosts are against the Roblox rules, I believe."
Mhm, quite so.
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" I am in college. Also, how can you be a "try hard" when you're trying to give these people some common sense?
And how exactly do I just "go along with society"? 'society' believes Evolution for the most part. After that comes Christianity. I don't know how people actually believe we came from animals there is such little evidence for such beliefs. And God isn't a "big imaginary guy", that would all just be in your head."
First of all, although you could very well be in college, I find it difficult to see a college student on Roblox. Hence, could you perhaps so some proof?
I do agree with the second and third sentences. However, please refrain from unncessary rudeness.
" I don't know how people actually believe we came from animals there is such little evidence for such beliefs."
I'm honestly going to die from the amount of incorrectness in this sentence... Right, incoming links.
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence
http://evolutionfaq.com/articles/five-proofs-evolution
http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/12/evolution-creation-proof-opinions-darwin_0212_jerry_coyne.html
http://ideonexus.com/2012/02/12/101-reasons-why-evolution-is-true/
http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-recent-signs-evolution-is-real.php
Is this enough proof, or ought I stop here?
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"Nobody likes a derail"
Oh, mate... This thread is so derailed that there's no point in even attempting to go back on topic.
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"Also, I do have to say that I get angry REALLY easily. (and I'm trying to fix that)."
Good luck on that. I'm not being sarcastic, just you know.
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". I didn't really bring out a good view on Christians for ranting and calling you guys morons. Sooo, I'm sorry."
Well, thank you for, at least, apologizing. On the other hand, please attempt to control yourself in the future.
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"oder thread"
Next time, rather than just stating "oder thread," please mention why you believe this is so. Although, quite frankly, you ought to keep those thoughts to yourself.
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Great there is a flame on this thread... kill it please. |
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"Great there is a flame on this thread... kill it please."
... There's been a flame since around page 3 or 4 of this thread. Also, for future reference, when speaking and/or typing, it is better to specifically state what the "it" is. So, if you meant the thread, it would be, "Kill this thread, please." Thank you for reading, if you did.
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"Honestly, so what if animals and humans both "have brains, and skin" like you said?
Is that supposed to be evidence? Even Darwin didn't believe it when he first gave out the idea. Also, if "Lucy" even did exist there should be TONS of fossils. Why are there so few, that give such poor evidence? Also, when they found "Lucy", why did they find the knee of it 200 feet lower? And that's the "evidence" we have of "Lucy"? If that's what you base your beliefs on then I'm sorry but you're not to smart."
Well, I mean, I don't see very many rocks or tables, etc with brains....
Please show me proof that Darwin did not believe it.
The reason there are so few is because over time, things get eroded and destroyed by nature.
About the 200 feet lower thing, that is slightly confusing, yes. But, thing about it. There could easily have been a cave in. Also, the Earth is constantly pushing old rocks, minerals, and ancient items. Perhaps the knee was a bit from the rest, perchance an animal took it to eat it, and it was not pushed up to the Earth's surface as well.
"And that's the "evidence" we have of "Lucy"?" Well, a skeleton, almost complete... Yeah, I'd say that's pretty substantial evidence...
"I'm sorry but you're not to smart." Really? Again with the insults? *sighs*
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well then why are you at college and still playing a childs game |
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"Also, when there were debates on TV about evolution why did they lose to other beliefs? -_-"
Well, after a certain point, you have to just give up on the thick-headed ones.
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"well then why are you at college and still playing a childs game"
I'm... not.... I was talking about someone else, not myself. Oh, and for the record, I'm in high-school.
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