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Corhz
#148666036Monday, October 27, 2014 1:32 AM GMT

if you disagree post a valid point if you dont have a valid point dont post
Jammintoad
#148666090Monday, October 27, 2014 1:33 AM GMT

one of the most active clans, and one of the clans with the most elite GFers. also, balanced base
Daniel3613
#148666092Monday, October 27, 2014 1:33 AM GMT

accurate imo [dtlm]
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#148666095Monday, October 27, 2014 1:33 AM GMT

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Corhz
#148666139Monday, October 27, 2014 1:34 AM GMT

LOL BALANCED BASE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL when was the last time they won a war on a top 3 clan? oyea, never
v3kt
#148666164Monday, October 27, 2014 1:34 AM GMT

uh i have a valid point it cant be because something called uh..... uh..... theres a clan called fear Checkmate.
Jammintoad
#148666214Monday, October 27, 2014 1:35 AM GMT

just because they spawn inside doesn't make it not balanced. something doesnt have to be symmetrical to be balanced
Corhz
#148666226Monday, October 27, 2014 1:35 AM GMT

FEAR isnt overrated tho everyone knows it sux lmao wtf
Jammintoad
#148666256Monday, October 27, 2014 1:35 AM GMT

"when was the last time they won a war on a top 3 clan? " lets rephrase this "when was the last time they lost a war to anyone?"
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#148666268Monday, October 27, 2014 1:36 AM GMT

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v3kt
#148666340Monday, October 27, 2014 1:37 AM GMT

and here we observe a tryhard op who is trying to make new friends by bashing a clan he has never experienced first hand. good job, level 1 keyboard warrior. Checkmate.
Corhz
#148666458Monday, October 27, 2014 1:39 AM GMT

Jam point 1- level system the level system poises a unfair advantage specifically to the raider team because, most raiders wont have put in as much time as the WIJs. Also allowing WIJ to have better weapons than the raiders. And just the idea of not everyone having the same weapon is unfair. point 2- map design med kits/bubbles are blaintenly spread out in favor of WIJ. As-well as this, the gate gives a HUGE advantage of cover to WIJ when raiders are advancing on the fort. Literally any nobhead with any weapon can easily pick off 1-2 people just by using the gate.
Corhz
#148666497Monday, October 27, 2014 1:40 AM GMT

@Jam YES BECAUSE NEVER LOSING TO RSF, ART, AND RAT IS SOMETHING TO BRAG ABOUT111
Corhz
#148666555Monday, October 27, 2014 1:40 AM GMT

OH AND NOT TO MENTION TRA IN THERE WORST ERA
Corhz
#148666623Monday, October 27, 2014 1:41 AM GMT

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kingkendrick141
#148666786Monday, October 27, 2014 1:44 AM GMT

Gargix, I thought VAKs weren't supposed to act like dumbasses on the forums. Goodness Gracious that Booty is Spacious! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Corhz
#148666880Monday, October 27, 2014 1:45 AM GMT

im not acting dumb you butthurt moron
Jammintoad
#148666946Monday, October 27, 2014 1:46 AM GMT

first lets define what I mean by balanced. By balanced I mean being able to give the defending team a decent advantage, without making the game either too hard or too easy for the raiders to conquer depending on who is there. My personal belief is that WIJ excels at making their bases balanced in such a way that it's fun (not too hard, not too slow). Also if we were talking about Cerulean then this entire argument wouldn't even be happening. Anyway, to continue. "Point 1- level system" to examine whether or not this is a issue of balance we first have to conclude how much having a higher level actually helps. The starter guns have great accuracy and can actually match up with pretty much all the higher guns when used correctly. In all honesty, I believe the maximum benefit levels can get you ends when you get SUF. None of the guns above that really help too much. Getting SUF only takes about 5-6 raids, give or take, and if you don't RQ like a loser. (Also levels dont automatically get you the guns, you have to get kills as well. So if you don't die, they don't get their OP guns in the first place. there ya go) Point 2 - map design You say that the bubbles are organized in a way that benefits WIJ. Yes, the truth is that they do. BUT only when they are advanced forward near the raider spawn. Consider them kind of like a middle ground that is good to hold. If the raiders advance to the gate, all those large bubbles that WIJ used can easily be used by the raiders against WIJ instead. "Literally any nobhead with any weapon can easily pick off 1-2 people just by using the gate." In this you're implying that the raiders have less skill than the WIJian doing the shooting. Considering the raiders get a balcony that is the same height as the gate, they can easily return fire, wallshooting or not, while using cover. If you use something I like to call "basic tactics" they can give at least some cover fire while other raiders move up to stack or shoot the garage door.
Jammintoad
#148666980Monday, October 27, 2014 1:47 AM GMT

oh and btw, name a clan that isnt labeled in the top 5 that you think WIJ would lose to
Corhz
#148667048Monday, October 27, 2014 1:48 AM GMT

wij would lose to void and vak
Jammintoad
#148667077Monday, October 27, 2014 1:48 AM GMT

You consider VOID and VAK not top 5? wow
kingkendrick141
#148667315Monday, October 27, 2014 1:52 AM GMT

First off, you really are. You're flaming the one group that can be considered a contemporary of VAK, yet when you yourself raided you not only lost in a 5v11, but you went something on the lines of 8-39. And it wasn't because our base was OP. Groups like RAA, Sorticule Forces, and even RAT have won in far worse situations for them(ranging from 8v8s to a full on 10v6, which RAA pulled off earlier in the summer). The leveling system is useless if you don't have the skill to get the kills for the good guns in the first place. And even then, its more based on skill than the actual guns. If you suck with a Y14, you'll still suck with an AT, SUF, or R87. The bubble system is only OP if WIJ is camping the raider spawn. And even then you have two easily accessed health packs. When the reactor is armed, WIJ only has one easily accessed bubble pack in the backyard area. Raiders have three. Goodness Gracious that Booty is Spacious! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Jammintoad
#148667943Monday, October 27, 2014 2:01 AM GMT

because there was no valid reply im going to claim this argument one SIEG HEIL
cloudyhex
#148668980Monday, October 27, 2014 2:16 AM GMT

I've always thought they disbanded.....Guess I havent been up to date.
v3kt
#148683549Monday, October 27, 2014 11:05 AM GMT

"point 1- level system the level system poises a unfair advantage specifically to the raider team because, most raiders wont have put in as much time as the WIJs. Also allowing WIJ to have better weapons than the raiders. And just the idea of not everyone having the same weapon is unfair." ==> 1. takes kills to get weps also if you knew anything, but obviously you dont. 2. maybe if the raiders stuck around, actually solo-raided or something to get their level up, and were good. "point 2- map design med kits/bubbles are blaintenly spread out in favor of WIJ. As-well as this, the gate gives a HUGE advantage of cover to WIJ when raiders are advancing on the fort. Literally any nobhead with any weapon can easily pick off 1-2 people just by using the gate." ==> yes the med kids are totally unfair with the 2 in our base and 2 in your base (that you raiders always run back to and camp). i can say that orbs are kinda unfair. raiders could just as easily spawntrap us if they wanted to. Checkmate.

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