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uknowhimguy
#149523916Monday, November 10, 2014 5:27 PM GMT

Sucks. He says he just wants to "Sing". I still like there old albums but come on. They are even in VEVO now. No band in VEVO is good. BMTH will die and its band members will leave. I can just tell that all those prep girls are going to be all over the band now.
gatemaster1
#149535153Monday, November 10, 2014 9:21 PM GMT

Lol, did you see that Oli made a "BMTH" store? Success is a journey, not a destination.
uknowhimguy
#149535440Monday, November 10, 2014 9:25 PM GMT

Yeah the band has just gone downhill. They should replace oliver.
Zokulzoh
#149535507Monday, November 10, 2014 9:26 PM GMT

did you know that no one actually cares
uknowhimguy
#149535552Monday, November 10, 2014 9:27 PM GMT

Did you know that Its only a forum so you shouldn't care about what is said on it anyway?
Zokulzoh
#149535621Monday, November 10, 2014 9:28 PM GMT

why do you even like bmth? or care who their target audience is?
uknowhimguy
#149535787Monday, November 10, 2014 9:31 PM GMT

I don't like them. I use to like there albums with death metal in it. Now they are complete sht.
Zokulzoh
#149535810Monday, November 10, 2014 9:31 PM GMT

they have always been complete sht.
uknowhimguy
#149535855Monday, November 10, 2014 9:32 PM GMT

Ever since sepriternal, yeah they have.
Zokulzoh
#149535889Monday, November 10, 2014 9:32 PM GMT

no, always always.
xFilthyFrank
#149535908Monday, November 10, 2014 9:33 PM GMT

They where deathcore
Zokulzoh
#149535951Monday, November 10, 2014 9:33 PM GMT

Metalcore and deathcore
uknowhimguy
#149535954Monday, November 10, 2014 9:33 PM GMT

I don't notice a difference in death metal and deathcore.
MudVein
#149535979Monday, November 10, 2014 9:34 PM GMT

This thread gave me cancer, and I'm getting test results back soon.
Zokulzoh
#149536099Monday, November 10, 2014 9:36 PM GMT

Deathcore, really bad riffs 01010001001000101010101010101010100111110000101 Deathcore also has really bad vocals that sound like pig, hence pig squeals Death metal doesnt sport these vocals or the riffs.
stagedive
#149536426Monday, November 10, 2014 9:41 PM GMT

If you don't know the difference between death metal and death core you should be ashamed. Death metal is a low pitched fart with fast riffs, Death core is someone shtting their pants with riffs that are like: -----------121231312831293812----------- ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- 2-2-2-2--------------------------------- 0-0-0-0--------------------------1231312
DrAwsomeMonkey
#149536663Monday, November 10, 2014 9:45 PM GMT

>no band in VEVO is good oh man this was dumb to say
gatemaster1
#149537043Monday, November 10, 2014 9:51 PM GMT

Honestly, it is a big step for Oli to make the change to from his harder vocals from before to whatever he's going for now. I never really liked them, but that doesn't mean I'll hate on them because even though I might not like the new change, they'll get new fans that do. Success is a journey, not a destination.
DrAwsomeMonkey
#149537168Monday, November 10, 2014 9:53 PM GMT

>Honestly, it is a big step for Oli to make the change to from his harder vocals from before to whatever he's going for now. it's not really a big step, he had to do it because he blew out his vocal chords because he doesn't know how to scream properly
MudVein
#149537303Monday, November 10, 2014 9:54 PM GMT

">no band in VEVO is good oh man this was dumb to say" (2)
uknowhimguy
#149537384Monday, November 10, 2014 9:56 PM GMT

Mudvayne is the only exception. What I mean is MOST bands aren't good in VEVO
MudVein
#149537743Monday, November 10, 2014 10:01 PM GMT

Mudvayne as bad. I figured putting "vein" in Mudvayne would make the fans angry, it's working for you.
MudVein
#149537794Monday, November 10, 2014 10:02 PM GMT

They're as bad as Bring Me The Horizon.
DrAwsomeMonkey
#149537817Monday, November 10, 2014 10:02 PM GMT

but here I'll explain the ACTUAL difference between death metal and deathcore: deathcore is a genre that takes influence from more metal influenced metalcore bands (they don't take as much influence from the more hardcore influenced metalcore bands) so what you end up getting is death metal that takes some metalcore structures and vocals (usually associated with hardcore) like screams, shouts, and they also take the pig squeal from slam/brutal death metal. Death metal also has screams but it's more common in Deathcore. Another thing that deathcore takes is some of the melodic metalcore riffs (riffs that were originally inspired by death metal bands like Carcass and At the Gates). Deathcore of course has the blast beats, tremolo picking, death growls, etc, from death metal. An important thing that deathcore takes from metalcore is the breakdown, which is originally from hardcore, the breakdowns that metalcore uses however have a much more metallic sound to them then traditional hardcore breakdowns.
MudVein
#149537923Monday, November 10, 2014 10:04 PM GMT

@Dr what is your opinion on the newer At The Gates album?

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