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Flammavir
#151583834Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:59 AM GMT

i know they are trying to persuade people into building and stuff but all it really does is remind people that no matter how hard they try, you won't get to that level because of the band wagon games so yeah, don't argue with me diesoft and give me a story on how you were bad at building and became good SALAM.
DieSoft
#151584022Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:01 AM GMT

Not sure how me telling you a story of how I went from being a bad builder to a good builder is relevant to people making successful games. But all right. :|
Vaul
#151584060Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:01 AM GMT

"if everyone just spent 400 hours learning you could get a gift like me"
Clerical
#151584119Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:02 AM GMT

diesoft's old tale of encouragement ;^]
bluefredy
#151584189Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:03 AM GMT

"but all it really does is remind people that no matter how hard they try, you won't get to that level because of the band wagon games" exactly why it's unfair MUGI WHY
Flammavir
#151584190Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:03 AM GMT

thanks diesoft i knew you would listen SALAM.
Scrubnaut
#151584252Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:04 AM GMT

even if roblox rewarded smaller devs more those smaller devs would have to compete with not only with other devs on the front page but also on ads (i mean, how many millions of tickets does loleris use on advertising each week?) smaller devs would still stay small Veroastrianism - The One True Path™
Vaul
#151584315Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:04 AM GMT

Maybe next year is clan year. :/
darkwisp
#151584396Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:06 AM GMT

""if everyone just spent 400 hours learning you could get a gift like me"" It seems legit honestly, programming is extremely easy to pick up. I honestly do not know why people are too lazy to make their own games themselves. I actually know the processes of getting a front page game. I assure you it is not bandwagon, and I can even teach you how to get there. Any one can do it, even NBC.
DieSoft
#151584502Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:07 AM GMT

Not exactly sure how it is a tale, it is a fact that if you work hard enough then you'll achieve success. Sure it is hard to start off from zero, but we all had to make a name for ourselves. Not exactly like if you can pay $50 and get a free fame and success boost. It is a question of how dedicated you are. :|
Flammavir
#151584523Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:07 AM GMT

@darkwisp something is easy once you know how to do it just like basketball, it's easy to only people who can play it and getting front page is one thing, keeping it there with all the bandwagon games is not that easy SALAM.
darkwisp
#151584729Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:10 AM GMT

Flamm by the time you are front page you would have funds to keep yourself frotn page. Let's not forget that if you make a cool game, the admins can review it! They review all sorts of games, if it is cool, the gunna review it. I was also kinda sad I guess for not getting a present, but hey there is always next time and I definitely see ROBLOX's intentions.
Rectifying
#151584791Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:11 AM GMT

it's like paying the rich for being rich
Flammavir
#151584798Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:11 AM GMT

@diesoft not free fame, temporary or no fame even if you do manage to make a game that people would like, what if you are not rich enough for it? the most efficient way to advertise stuff is through the roblox ad system, which is obviously removed from one of the solutions some people are not willing to spend a lot of their time going around at games and comments and say "hey come to my place it's really fun!". and even if people are willing to do that, that really doesn't workout a lot SALAM.
Flammavir
#151584903Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:13 AM GMT

@darkwisp but still keeps you at temporary or no fame. SALAM.
darkwisp
#151584904Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:13 AM GMT

"something is easy once you know how to do it just like basketball, it's easy to only people who can play it" In basketball it requires a lot of practice and training to actually play the game with ease. For programming it is almost non existent. Just simple logic and also being familiar with syn taxes is needed. Wiki is your friend in looking for methods that can help you and yeah. Not much to say. It is like a language but much more easy to understand.
darkwisp
#151585007Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14 AM GMT

"some people are not willing to spend a lot of their time going around at games and comments and say "hey come to my place it's really fun!"." That is not what the secret is on getting to front page, but oh well.
Flammavir
#151585046Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:15 AM GMT

@dark again i already said it's easy for people who know how to do it practice is needed yes but refer back to my "temporary fame" post SALAM.
DieSoft
#151585064Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:15 AM GMT

You don't need to spend anything to get big. If you are making an interesting game you can always tweet progress to ROBLOX and if they think it is good enough to retweet then you'll get visits. If you keep it up and actually pull through then your game might have a shot at being played during the streams if you are lucky. Just a mention in the blog can get your games going. Or you can join a famous group and gain fame that way, like asimo did. You don't have to spend a single ROBUX to get a game going, but it would help, yes that is correct, but not required. :|
Flammavir
#151585098Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:16 AM GMT

"That is not what the secret is on getting to front page, but oh well." and what's even great about that is making the front page is a secret SALAM.
Flammavir
#151585189Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:17 AM GMT

ok i just wanted to point this out thanks diesoft and darkwisp for your kind and creative answers SALAM.
Rectifying
#151585224Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:18 AM GMT

let's forget about the considerable large amount of people that get rich off of a copied obby with a title that has nothing to do with the obby
darkwisp
#151585349Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:20 AM GMT

"You don't need to spend anything to get big. If you are making an interesting game you can always tweet progress to ROBLOX and if they think it is good enough to retweet then you'll get visits. If you keep it up and actually pull through then your game might have a shot at being played during the streams if you are lucky. Just a mention in the blog can get your games going. Or you can join a famous group and gain fame that way, like asimo did. You don't have to spend a single ROBUX to get a game going, but it would help, yes that is correct, but not required." Also you know how you see badly made tycoons get front page for a week? What they do it invite people and ask them to give a like at their place. A like helps people find your game from the top rated section, and a favorite is especially useful if people are searching for a specific tag. If you put the LOL tag and have a good amount of favorites, there is a good chance people may find your game by mistake. I have seen games of people who quit at like 2010 and people are playing it still cause it has "ninja" or "wizard" in the tags.
DieSoft
#151585413Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:21 AM GMT

If you work hard enough you will succeed, I suppose it might seem harder than it actually is when you haven't already made your way through. But once you actually get a bird's eye view of the entire thing it isn't as complicated. You just gotta work for it. :)
SLPM
#151585514Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:22 AM GMT

Why should they reward people who haven't earned it? Do not kneel when you are right, stand proudly and face all odds.

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