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lokkut
#160111984Monday, April 13, 2015 10:09 PM GMT

So, I've been thinking about it, and it would be cool if we could optimise the calculation of gravity enough that it would be able to run properly on a server. F = (g*m1*m2)/d² g = Gravity Constant m1 = mass of particle 1 m2 = mass of particle 2 d = Distance between if we have 5k parts, that's ( i have no idea how many times we'd have to run the same functions actually, in my head it would make sense for it to be the 4999th triangle number [ = 12mil ] but my head is stupid ) 4 multiplications and a divide, a squareroot and 6 more multiplications and 3 subtractions ( for magnitude ). how possible would it be that this could work? or would it just run at -1 fps
AbstractMadness
#160112041Monday, April 13, 2015 10:10 PM GMT

-5000000 fps
lokkut
#160112057Monday, April 13, 2015 10:10 PM GMT

qq thanks :x
eLunate
#160112137Monday, April 13, 2015 10:11 PM GMT

Use memoizing.
lokkut
#160112177Monday, April 13, 2015 10:12 PM GMT

is that spelt correctly, if so what is it?
eLunate
#160112313Monday, April 13, 2015 10:14 PM GMT

Cheeky stuff that stops your function from running again if you've already calculated details for an argument.
lokkut
#160112377Monday, April 13, 2015 10:15 PM GMT

yes but would the distance not always be different, meaning that it could possibly be a waste of time?
digpoe
#160112555Monday, April 13, 2015 10:17 PM GMT

local function memorise(func) local cache = { } return setmetatable({ }, { __index = function(_, i) if not cache[i] then cache[i] = func(i) end return cache[i] end }) end local gravity = memorise(function(mass) return mass^2 end)
eLunate
#160112572Monday, April 13, 2015 10:17 PM GMT

It could be worth it...
lokkut
#160112948Monday, April 13, 2015 10:22 PM GMT

i have no idea how to use metatables erk. it's also quite late.. so i think i'll sleep on it and get up early to carry on. i'll probably bump this tommorow, so night i think i'll be realistic about it tho and keep it down to 2.5k parts considering i'll have to do :getmass() a whole lot and .magnitude and painful calculations that'll destroy my CPU i might just ask my freind to run in reality tho, 4th gen intel cpu's are apparently fairly powerful :x
lokkut
#160167203Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:20 PM GMT

just bumping http://www.roblox.com/games/236308560/Laggy-place got this far but it still can't handle that many parts any idea how to optimise more?
buildersteven4
#160169960Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:58 PM GMT

d² = sqrt(v.x² + v.y² + v.z²)² = v.x² + v.y² + v.z² Since magnitude is sqrt(v.x² + v.y² + v.z²) and you square it afterwards anyway. so replace d² with v.x^2 + v.y^2 + v.z^2 or v.x*v.x + v.y*v.y + v.z*v.z that should be faster
buildersteven4
#160170057Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:59 PM GMT

Also, how about only memorizing: g*m1*m2 that's pretty constant.
lokkut
#160170114Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:00 PM GMT

Yeh, did that when reading however people did it. could it possibly just be due to the fact that roblox has its own physics and tries to make calculations for that? if so i'll probably go remove lal the corescripts or something entirely stupid that won't help anyone
buildersteven4
#160170411Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:04 PM GMT

also. I don't know if :GetMass() calculates mass over and over, but if it does it may be worth it to safe the mass of every part.
lokkut
#160170525Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:06 PM GMT

Yeh, I memoized it if it's checking the same part, so that it doesn't need to do it twice. not sure which will be faster though, recalculating mass or saving it in a table.
morash
#160170557Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:06 PM GMT

Doing a calculation 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(5000! (factorial)) times would be bound to cause major lag.
lokkut
#160170775Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:09 PM GMT

it's not a factorial it's 1/2*n*(n+1)
buildersteven4
#160171013Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:12 PM GMT

If you make a table with all parts as keys and the mass of these as values it would be faster I assume. You could do it like this: local massParts = {workspace.part = workspace.part:GetMass()} for part1, mass1 in pairs(massParts) do for part2, mass2 in pairs(massParts) do -- do the math end end
lokkut
#160171140Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:14 PM GMT

That would be quite a bit faster than I'm currently doing.
buildersteven4
#160171201Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:15 PM GMT

And to prevent doubles local massParts = {workspace.part = workspace.part:GetMass()} for part1, mass1 in pairs(massParts) do local last = part1 for part2, mass2 in pairs(massParts) do if last == nil then -- do the math elseif last == part2 then last = nil end end end (didn't test)
lokkut
#160171297Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:17 PM GMT

I prefer doing for i = 1, #blah do for j = 1, #blah-i do local k = j+i local part = parts[k] end end removes the need for the if function + i can just work out both forces from one iteration because Part1.force = -Part2.force
morash
#160171358Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:18 PM GMT

Your right, it's not a factorial. lol
lokkut
#160171437Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:19 PM GMT

Yeh, worked that out when calc.exe died heh
buildersteven4
#160171587Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:21 PM GMT

I think your way is quite a bit slower. pairs is heavily optimized with non-Lua code also it think your list will be plain huge (n^2-n) since it needs every possible combination.

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