dans59Join Date: 2011-04-15
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If passed, this will be stripping the powers of AAS and removing their team from DC.
Administrative Action Services sole purpose is to keep DC safe.
...is it just that actually what they're doing or are they shining a spotlight on themselves by running twitch streams "Hey come down to the stream, and watch one of our moderators (do this and that)".
That's not their job! Their job is to "protect" DC from exploiters--and even that is a weak argument to keep this agency official. ROBLOX are quick at constantly patching exploits as they're discovered.
In addition, the ROBLOX Anti-Exploit or RAE for short is also added in DC, and getting help against exploiters is just a click away from calling RAE into the server. We don't need AAS if we also have RAE protecting our servers--just another reason to remove AAS and why we don't need it.
Look at Las Vegas, they're doing great with out AAS and with out any excess admin abuse.
The matter of the fact is, that they're simply not needed at DC.
Developers have admin too, and they're fairly active in visiting DC throughout the day--they still abuse their powers though, but still proves my point, we have too many admins at DC if you add AAS in the equation.
*>>>SIDENOTE<<<
A recent survey was done regarding this topic with 17 participants.
The question was:
"How useful do you think AAS Administrative Action Services are at DC?"
1. 'Very useful, they have been great moderators!'
2. 'They're "okay".' 1 vote (4%)
3. 'Meh.' 0 votes (0%)
4. 'They somtimes don't do their jobs.' 5 votes (22%)
5. 'They aren't needed at DC.' 17 votes (74%)
IM me on skype if you wish to see the poll. |
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CrakkittyJoin Date: 2009-12-25
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Your recent survey was created with 17 participants, which does not satisfy the Central Limit Theory's qualification of having the sample size be greater than 30. Because of such, we cannot assume normality from the sample and therefore results based off the sample are not representative of the entire sample. Because your survey gives no information about when it was conducted, whether it was done in multiple serves, and was administered to a small amount of people, you cannot conclude anything based off the evidence provided. Confounding factors may have existed which could have influenced the public's opinion on the AAS. For example, was a rogue AAS member observed in a server abusing, and then the survey was held?
Such results cannot be used.
~am a cat meow~ |
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CrakkittyJoin Date: 2009-12-25
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*representative of the entire population
~am a cat meow~ |
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*23 Participants
And oh my god it needs to be on a bigger scale than just 20 people. Not to mention the fact that some of them could be biased! We don't know whether or not! But yeah, this is now on my radar. Along with AAS, and developers, and Night. But apart from that good luck on whatever you are trying to accomplish. |
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CrakkittyJoin Date: 2009-12-25
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23 is still not an accurate representation >;c
30 + and even then, surveys have to capture a representative sample, and that's not very easy on here.
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Make it 50 or higher #50+
Also hi fellow forum poster who helps to find inaccuracies in political posting crap! |
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SleetHDJoin Date: 2014-11-07
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Hi dans |
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Benda587Join Date: 2011-12-14
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Dans59:
"Let me start off by saying, I purposed a anti-admin abuse bill here:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=156817232
Whilst it failed in the House, because they said it was "hard to enforce", all the things I have stated in that thread will apply to me being an admin at DC. Even though those aren't any official regulations of NUSA, I still believe in them personally, and came from war clans where those admin rules do apply as I was HRs in those war clans. As you can see from what I said in my thread, I'm a heavily against admin abuse, and will NEVER say a admin command to arrest someone in the server, or to kill and whatnot at DC. I shall only use my privileged powers for when there's an exploiter in the server, where I may need to shutdown the server. Admins seem to forget that the "admin commands" are there for moderation only, not to seek attention, and I seen from many "moderators" at DC, aka admins.
I am qualified for this because, as I said before I was a HR in many war clans, in which I can have a references to many leaders on ROBLOX to recommend me for this position, I will guarantee they will; I have never abused my powers 'till this day.
Here's the clans I have been admin in:
- Russian Army
- Red Army
- RAA
- First Encounter Assault Recon (1 year ago)
- Team Domino.
- Nightfall clan
- Shadow Nation (at its' golden ara)
- Reign of Chaos (1 and a half year ago)
I joined USA about 9 months ago, and I have seen many admins at our cities abuse their powers--when really they should not. It is easy to forget they are just moderators, and to protect the server; not to make the users feel that you're just an "attention seeker" or anything among that line.
I, Dans59, Swear Allegiance to NUSA, I swear to uphold and protect the rights and privileges my fellow Americans worked so very hard to accomplish and achieve. I understand that my job is not easy but I will do my best to fill the shoes of those who have stepped in my place before.
Thank you! I hope you consider my application to your deepest regards.
Cheers!
Dans59." |
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Benda587Join Date: 2011-12-14
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Forgot one part ^ Status: Failed. |
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QyrnJoin Date: 2011-06-09
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AAS operates outside of USA jurisdictions, this bill auto-fails because it cant do anything to aas. lmao |
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dans59Join Date: 2011-04-15
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@Benda, I changed my mind about joining AAS, at first when AAS opened I thought it was pretty cool, but as time went on, it was clear that AAS was not needed.
And my bill has nothing to do with the application I handed in.
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dans59Join Date: 2011-04-15
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Oh and Benda, I handed that in 2 (or more) months ago, and after a careful observation about AAS, I decided to make this bill regarding this topic. |
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dans59Join Date: 2011-04-15
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@Crakkitty
Well, 23*
I accidentally wrote 17 as the participants.
To answer your question, the poll was done via third-party website, and was asked in many USA agency Skype chats. |
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BenocularJoin Date: 2012-07-24
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Um, RAE was shut down. So "In addition, the ROBLOX Anti-Exploit or RAE for short is also added in DC, and getting help against exploiters is just a click away from calling RAE into the server. We don't need AAS if we also have RAE protecting our servers--just another reason to remove AAS and why we don't need it." is false |
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dans59Join Date: 2011-04-15
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RAE shutdown isn't permanent, they're working on a new API is why. |
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AAS can't really admin abuse though. Of course unless they use the :ban all command on people, lol.
My only thoughts now on AAS is on how slow the response time is, and on how they sometimes shut down servers for little to no reasoning at all.
DC's popularity lowering isn't because of AAS, it's because LV has many more things to do then DC. DC is boring right now honestly, and even though I found LV a bit boring.. it's still more fun then DC until it gets it's new massive update.
Also, the AAS isn't law enforcement so trying to do this not only gets you auto-denied for AAS and probably blacklisted, but it also won't happen. AAS is pretty much ran by Night, the developers, and Benda. (a developer!!) so developers obviously wouldn't remove AAS at DC even if this bill passed with flying colors.
so yeah.. :/ good luck trying to make this pass.
Also to mention, RAE is gonna be down for at least another 2 or 3 months, and another thing. Most of RAE's response time is slower then AAS's response time (which is hard to believe even for me, but it's true) so yeah... :/
Also to mention, RAE's admin was different so if a RAE decided to ban someone for no reason, it would have to be appealed from RAE admins instead of DC developers. Which made it harder, or at least I think that's how it worked.
I HAVE CHORTLES! ◕‿◕ |
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raslxJoin Date: 2012-04-06
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There isn't even a ban command. |
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dans59Join Date: 2011-04-15
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"AAS isn't law enforcement so trying to do this not only gets you auto-denied for AAS and probably blacklisted."
I'm 100% fine of being blacklisted and auto-denied from AAS. I have zero problem with that.
I want them removed from DC, ever since AAS came into place, less and less people visit DC.
If passed, and devs fail to comply, it'll likley be a Congress vs Dev scenario.
AAS isn't above the law, the developers still have to follow our constitution, if you're implying majority of the law don't apply to devs which is false. |
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jody7777Join Date: 2009-02-22
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you do realize that LV has FE and that RAE is shut down right
and aas isnt a agency
FOR THE CAUSE |
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dans59Join Date: 2011-04-15
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"you do realize that LV has FE and that RAE is shut down right
and aas isnt a agency"
if you read what I said earlier one of your statements would've been answered:
"RAE shutdown isn't permanent, they're working on a new API is why."
Given that you're AAS, of course you don't want them shutdown by default--because your admin powers will diminish.
How ironic, most of the negative feedback here are from the people who are IN AAS.
Also, I was not aware that LV had FE, although I know paul gave some trusted few users admin, and I know some of them, they never even used a ":m" command or a tp command 'till this day (from what I witnessed).
I've also checked Paul's group after you told me about FE, and I can't seem to find that in his groups. |
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dans59Join Date: 2011-04-15
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Oh and this is just another example of how AAS thinks they're "special"
http://www.roblox.com/Groups/group.aspx?gid=2569349
lmao. |
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JustALieJoin Date: 2012-07-31
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Support! |
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