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zc23
#163914578Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:21 AM GMT

They've scored 269 runs so far this season, that's the most in the majors. 3 players (Donaldson, Bautista and Encarnacion each have 30+ RBI's already, not to mention how hot Donaldson has been, a recent 10 game hit streak just snapped this afternoon but also a surprise in Chris Colabello who's currently on a 16 game hit streak. Once the remainder of the injured players (LF Michael Saunders and 2B Devon Travis) are back on the roster the depth and offence of this team could be dangerous, the pitching was not the greatest to start the season but over the last 15 starts each pitcher has done extremely well.
deathrange07
#163914634Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:22 AM GMT

"3 players (Donaldson, Bautista and Encarnacion each have 30+ RBI's already" you triggered cheesey...watch out "Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set fire to the man and he's warm for the rest of his life." - Terry Pratchett ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ
Kenamatic
#163914648Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:22 AM GMT

Bringing my broom tomorrow. =)
123yonnd
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#163914653Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:22 AM GMT

as expected blue jays stack up offense, and flop pitching
zc23
#163914661Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:22 AM GMT

Shhh, if you don't mention his name he might not notice!
extemmasfriend2
#163914714Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:23 AM GMT

They've had potential for the last 3-4 years and haven't done anything.
zc23
#163914750Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:23 AM GMT

Yeah Donny but like I said, they've recently improved and can only keep improving... Aaron Sanchez walked a ton of batters in his first month and a half but as of late he's really gained the strike zone command and went 8+ innings giving up just 1 ER and walking nobody on Friday in the 6-2 victory.
zc23
#163914841Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:25 AM GMT

Plus the addition of Russ Martin hasn't shown to improve their record yet but he's certainly impacted behind the plate with his ability to throw out runners and call a good game for the young talent on the pitching staff.
Kenamatic
#163914971Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:28 AM GMT

Hopefully getting a Stroman bobblehead
zc23
#163914994Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:28 AM GMT

Nice Kenny, enjoy the game tomorrow.
Kenamatic
#163915093Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:30 AM GMT

I will, 2nd game I've ever gone to. The con though is we are leaving at 7, 3 and a half hour drive to Rogers Centre, 3 9r so hour game, same 3 and a half hour ride home. Note: The length of time driving there ad back is determined by traffic.
CheeseyMacral
#163915154Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:32 AM GMT

it's a shame you used RBI to judge those players instead of actual stats like OBP and WAR, in which all of the players you mentioned (except encarnacion who is absolutely garbage) are having great seasons Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
zc23
#163915234Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:33 AM GMT

It looks like Encarnacion is ruled out of tomorrow's game, my projected lineup may be this. SS Reyes 3B Donaldson RF Bautista C Martin 1B Smoak LF Colabello CF Pillar 2B Goins
anojan12345
#163915249Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:33 AM GMT

jays pitching always sucks
CheeseyMacral
#163915365Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:35 AM GMT

milwaukee and colorado have worse pitching stats but yeah toronto is right there with them Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
Kenamatic
#163915366Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:35 AM GMT

@zc I highly doubt Collabello is batting after Smoak and Martin the way he is hitting.
zc23
#163915386Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:36 AM GMT

You don't really think Encarnacion is garbage do you? You know he's just off to a slow start and has been injured for some parts... He's a good hitter. Also you still haven't explained your logic on how to change/stop major league analysts from using RBI's as an accurate stat, how would you judge a way the runner on first, second or third are scored in by the hitter at the plate? Why isn't it an accurate judgement for you?
BroBro264
#163915493Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:38 AM GMT

since when is a guy that has consistently hits 30 homers every season garbage
123yonnd
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#163915728Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:42 AM GMT

Encarnacion's shoulder certainly hasn't helped his swing. He hit slightly better in May though.
CheeseyMacral
#163915750Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:42 AM GMT

>You don't really think Encarnacion is garbage do you? You know he's just off to a slow start and has been injured for some parts... He's a good hitter. yes i do, he's having a terrible season he has a 0.1 WAR with a .306 OBP >Also you still haven't explained your logic on how to change/stop major league analysts from using RBI's as an accurate stat, how would you judge a way the runner on first, second or third are scored in by the hitter at the plate? Why isn't it an accurate judgement for you? RBI should never, ever be used to judge a player's value because the fact of the matter is that the batter has literally no control whatsoever of the ability of his teammates to get on base before he steps up to the plate you don't change the way "driving in runs" is scored, it will always be the RBI, it's just that it's not an accurate measurement of a player's hitting ability Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
CheeseyMacral
#163915843Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:44 AM GMT

>since when is a guy that has consistently hits 30 homers every season garbage how is that even relevant whatsoever??? he gets on base at a .306 % and that is a JOKE, plus he has a dWAR of -0.3 with a wOBA of .326 Iᴛ ᴀɪɴᴛ ᴇᴀsʏ, ʙᴇɪɴɢ Cʜᴇᴇsᴇʏ.
TomTheNoob1204
#163915880Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:45 AM GMT

American teams > Jays sorry guys.
zc23
#163915927Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:46 AM GMT

Yeah it's true obviously the player on deck has no control or ability to make sure the batter at the plate gets on base but it defiantly changes their approach if he does get on doesn't it? If there's 2 outs and you're up you're probably thinking 1 of 2 things, don't strikeout here or let's hit a HR or get a big base hit, if there's a runner on they've probably changed their approach especially if they aren't a typical HR hitter to let's single up the middle if the runner is on 2nd, and go for that RBI... Right?
BroBro264
#163916019Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:47 AM GMT

"how is that even relevant whatsoever??? he gets on base at a .306 % and that is a JOKE, plus he has a dWAR of -0.3 with a wOBA of .326" pretty sure he's a power hitter and that is how power hitters play. but i forgot. there's only two stats in the mlb. war and on base percentage.
123yonnd
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#163916196Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:50 AM GMT

Edwin should be fine when his shoulder gets full healed up. He's actually hitting more groundballs than flyballs, the first time ever in his career.

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