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Nederlandz
#172371627Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:53 PM GMT

this is the group if you dont know what i am talking about: http://www.roblox.com/groups/group.aspx?gid=360739 they basically made some updates to fang where they removed the fun of it updates include: - removal of old vips (yes you can now re-buy vips since they are money hungry!) - btw, this is a waste. this fang wont be very active and i dont think the group will even end up lasting as a long-term clan - addition of a side entrance into the blackmarket (allows easy access for jc to hovers) - old fang made them walk to the front entrance (only entrance), but now they want to be unfair and have a side entrance - addition of a shop guy into blackmarket that sells weapons (also body armor) - if jc used body armor to make it out of spawn (assuming raiders have a spawn trap), they can replenish before taking over the black market (again, easier for jc/more unfair to raiders) - addition of some invisible wall at top of raider gate (leading out of spawn) - if raiders try to jump/shoot over raider gate, your gun's bullets get all glitched - removal of ff (which protects you while spawning). now jc can do this to solo raiders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA2wSsfJ_9I&feature=youtu.be - removal of citizen weapons (yeah, raiders can kill you all they want and you cant defend yourself!) - removal of ally team (yeah, now you cant defend yourself on citizen team or kill them from the ally team, you now need to work with them :D!) - jc can take their own flag and "win" the server - yay to ruining solo/fun raiding for fights/killing - probably some other stuff, these are just the ones i noticed tl;dr = this version of fang is terrible for the raider team and its not fun, dont bother giving this fake jc attention/dont waste your time raiding it
Forenz
#172371752Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:55 PM GMT

What if We won everytime with the aforementioned changes and updates Rastafari 👊
Nederlandz
#172371795Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:56 PM GMT

im not saying you cant win there (they're pretty bad anyways), im simply saying the fun of raiding it has been removed so theres really no point in giving the fake jc attention/your time
Blast87
#172371842Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:57 PM GMT

none of these affect gameplay, I think raiders use the side door more then we do. x3
Nederlandz
#172371940Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:59 PM GMT

how does it not affect gameplay? in an actual raid, jc just tries to run to the left (since they cant break a spawn trap), and attempt to run to the blackmarket for a hover. you simply made it extremely easy to do so
IiMZ
#172371971Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:59 PM GMT

Exposed lol
iMachoMann
#172372020Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:00 PM GMT

calm down you probably got killed once in fang and wrote all of this as of rage
Garzen
#172372022Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:00 PM GMT

- addition of some invisible wall at top of raider gate (leading out of spawn) - if raiders try to jump/shoot over raider gate, your gun's bullets get all glitched ---------------------------------------------- Not actually an invisible wall. Trying to work out what is causing that problem.
Nederlandz
#172372059Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:01 PM GMT

@macho well i was on the citizen team which no longer gets a weapon, so yes, id assume i was getting killed
Blast87
#172372182Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:03 PM GMT

raiders can defend hovershop from the roof and street, as well raiders use this door to sneak up on us. and the black market is not just for us, raiders also can use this and have in past raids. everyone has fun, its a good game. and as you said, you can still win.
Default_System
#172372330Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:05 PM GMT

tsk tsk tsk just make a Fort fang II.
Nederlandz
#172372366Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:06 PM GMT

why are you using excuses like raiders use it more? its pretty obvious its to make it more unfair to the raiders ontop of that, you should just say jc can spawn inside the first gate with your logic, "well raiders can just guard from the flag roof and inner walls!" no, that door is specifically for jc to enter blackmarket during raids to easily by-pass raider defenses
Vuxtios
#172372424Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:06 PM GMT

Technically that's the real JC [ Join Orion Offensive Today : http://www.roblox.com/groups/group.aspx?gid=2629076 ]
Nederlandz
#172372452Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:07 PM GMT

@vux technically no its not, but glad you know the difference between that!
Blast87
#172372553Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:08 PM GMT

its not excuses, its facts. also who cares about citizens, i know its for recruitment purposes, put its kinda stupid during a raid.
Nederlandz
#172372646Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:10 PM GMT

really? its fact that a door, that happens to be on the jc side of the map, which would make it a lot easier for jc to take the blackmarket, is actually used by the raiders more? darn dude sounds so right
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#172372747Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:12 PM GMT

[rfa#hidefromsearch]
Blast87
#172372750Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:12 PM GMT

exactly m8
Nederlandz
#172372788Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:12 PM GMT

Sorry Pro Bro Its FACT That it DoesnT hElp THE jC
Blast87
#172372902Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:14 PM GMT

this thread shows how sensitive people are to updates at Fang. one small little door and the whole C&G starts freaking out. sorry m8, but this is our fort, and probably one of the last fair fun forts out there. if you want to, or dont want to raid. it is purely your decision. im off, bye.
xSabreKillerx
#172373072Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:17 PM GMT

I'm sorry but those aren't really drastic changes that vastly affect the ability of people to raid
shiroweeb
#172373131Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:18 PM GMT

they also removed knives for raiders :(
Valhalas
#172373312Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:20 PM GMT

"Technically that's the real JC" Are you dumb
Nederlandz
#172373323Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:20 PM GMT

its not fun nor fair
Nederlandz
#172373370Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:21 PM GMT

@xsabre yeah they are when you already take the version that they worked from, which was already a dumb version of the fort

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