Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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There's no point in making games anymore.
The only way we can make profits is through game passes, and no one will buy game passes if they have no money to buy anything with!
It just goes in an endless loop.
I get that you guys are trying to hire more people, so you need more money, but more than 75%-80% of Roblox Players consists of NBCs. If the only way for us to make money now is to sell gamepasses, then only like 20% of people on roblox can even buy gamepasses, and just because they can, does't mean they will. I know that BC is just around 6$, but some people still wont get BC. (The items are virtual, so you cant blame them really...)
Looks like the new slogan for Roblox should be:
"ROBLOX: ITS NOT FREEEEE! WELL TECHNICALLY IT IS, BUT YOU CANT DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU PAYYYYY!"
If you removed Tix because of quote and quote "Bot-ing", then just make NBCs do a CAPTCHA before they join a game. Google has developed a really simple CAPTCHA system, and heck, you could even implement this system into your Play Buttons! (With googles permission of course)
I feel like no matter how much support this forum gets, Roblox wont care.
Prove me wrong roblox! (If you will even attempt to, that is...)
Additional information:
- Say goodbye to tix blog
http://blog.roblox.com/2016/03/saying-goodbye-to-tickets/
- Suggestions & Ideas Forum Rules
https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=80622076
- Roblox Rules (Seems to have been removed.)
http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=180672961
- Google reCAPTCHA
https://twitter.com/DrDogeRoblox/status/723571200618692612
(I posted a Twitter post to Googles CAPTCHA link because offsite links are not allowed, however twitter links are fine. I know the rules might be being edited, and google is a very trusted source, but better to be safe than sorry.)
Tweet "#ReAddTix", or post a reply to show your support/constructive criticism!
If you are apposed to this idea, please explain why in detail.
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"The only way we can make profits is through game passes, and no one will buy game passes if they have no money to buy anything with!"
90% tax also says hello. We truly have almost no source of income unless you include a very crappy amount of R$ that you probably won't be able to use (Ever) because of how ridiculous the prices are of most things nowadays. item?id=167236120
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Yeah, I just started making clothes and may stop due to not enough sales due to the removal of TIX. I am waiting for the big name clothing and game devs to fall due to not enough profits.
This post is too complicated for new users. Roblox! Implement this! https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=187667296 |
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Agreed, but the captcha idea is stupid. You shouldn't have to type in stuff to play a game. |
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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@kyuremULTIMATE
You did't check out my Twitter post. It has a link to more information about the CAPTCHA.
https://twitter.com/DrDogeRoblox/status/723571200618692612
Googles CAPTCHA has no need for typing stuff in. You just check a box with your mouse and your done.
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What are you talking about? Tickets were worthless, and all actual developers still enjoy making their game. Plus, you can trade in your earned Robux for real money, not just virtual items. |
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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@MattDominator
You can trade Tix for Robux pretty easily (well not anymore), but if you want to trade Robux for Money irl, you need A LOT of robux. In other words, only top devs can make any money off of roblox, and even they might have trouble doing so now. Also, "actual developers" need a reason to script, just as much as players need a reason to be on Roblox. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy developing games just like you, but some of us need more of a drive to put that much effort, sweat, and blood into our games.
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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qq apparently no one has twitter.
https://twitter.com/search?src=typd&q=%23ReAddTix
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SulfoneJoin Date: 2010-08-19
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"There's no point in making games anymore."
How about because you enjoy making games, want to get popular or because you want to turn ideas into reality? You know, like back in old ROBLOX.
"then only like 20% of people on roblox can even buy gamepasses"
Lets pretend that this percentage is correct, with 20% having BC and 80% having NBC and none having anything higher. Now lets look at how much BCers would contribute to what NBCers contributed.
R$ from login bonus per month with 15:1 rate (low rate for the 2015 to removal period): 10/15 * 30 = 20 R$
R$ from BCer daily bonus: 15 * 30 = 450 R$
Lets not forget BC players also get daily login bonus, so 470 R$.
Relative NBC spending ability: 80% of 20 = 16
Relative BC spending ability: 20% of 470 = 94
Total: 110
Now with daily tix removal it would be in this scenario:
NBC: 0
BC: 20% of 450 = 90
Total: 90
So the money coming in would have dropped by 18%. In the best scenario for what you have said. 18% less money isn't "no money", people still and will still buy gamepasses. |
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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@Sulfone
Your scenarios were a little confusing, but I think I got what you are trying to say, however you forget one very important detail. Developers used to get 1 tix every time someone played one of their games.
Also there is no need to "pretend that this percentage is correct", just join a random game and do the math yourself.
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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Also, whats the point of getting "popular" if you have nothing to show for it?
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SulfoneJoin Date: 2010-08-19
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The message of my scenario was "most money used for game passes didn't come from daily tix", with you statistics for the percentage of NBCers used for evidence. Game pass sales in theory should barely be lower than before the tix removal taking it in account.
There's also the factor that NBC players are likely to be more responsible than BC players in spending. With less money NBC players are more likely to buy what will give them a long-term reward such as a catalog item (last forever until ROBLOX gets shut down), game passes that will give them an advantage (ie. P2W games' passes) or products in mainly their favourite game. Those with more money such as BC players are more likely to buy devproducts, cosmetic/pointless gamepasses and donations. In other words, selling donations and non-P2W game passes shouldn't really be as difficult as before the tix removal. |
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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My post was not aimed at just Game pass sales. It was aimed at roblox as a whole.
Try to be more clear and offer more evidence that
"selling donations and non-P2W game passes shouldn't really be as difficult as before the tix removal".
You seem like a cool dude, but your posts are not being clear enough to where others can understand what you are trying to say unless they read your post with more attention than they care to give.
Support this: http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=187874137 |
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"How about because you enjoy making games, want to get popular or because you want to turn ideas into reality? You know, like back in old ROBLOX."
If that's the way you think they see it then why is DevEx still around?
"Lets pretend that this percentage is correct, with 20% having BC and 80% having NBC and none having anything higher. Now lets look at how much BCers would contribute to what NBCers contributed.
R$ from login bonus per month with 15:1 rate (low rate for the 2015 to removal period): 10/15 * 30 = 20 R$
R$ from BCer daily bonus: 15 * 30 = 450 R$
Lets not forget BC players also get daily login bonus, so 470 R$.
Relative NBC spending ability: 80% of 20 = 16
Relative BC spending ability: 20% of 470 = 94
Total: 110
Now with daily tix removal it would be in this scenario:
NBC: 0
BC: 20% of 450 = 90
Total: 90
So the money coming in would have dropped by 18%. In the best scenario for what you have said. 18% less money isn't 'no money', people still and will still buy gamepasses."
The stock market would consider an 18% drop in commerce a noteworthy characteristic of what starts a crash. They may be two different things but an 18% drop in spending is still extremely bad. |
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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^ Thank you.
PS Sulfone
Accept my friend request if you get the time.
Support this: http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=187874137 |
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GAMEPASSES
LEARN TO SCRIPT
COULD BE USEFUL IN FUTURE
This is my siggy, deal with it |
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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@epicnoob61465
I know your a troll, so this is the only and final reply you will get.
1. I know how to script.
2. Read my post before posting your comments.
Support this: http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=187874137 |
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SanoSauroJoin Date: 2014-07-03
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In addition, you must not forget that the actual percentage of BC is much, MUCH lower. AND that it will take a month to get a decent gamepass for BC, so you need to be selective. |
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The update pretty much ruined it, I actually had motivation in learning to script, also groups places are pretty much useless now. |
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SanoSauroJoin Date: 2014-07-03
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Aye, quite true. The update ruined every group meeting, training and place. |
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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To those saying "Just buy BC or robux it's only 6$/£4" I am unable to buy bc or robux, my parents do not use their credit cards on this site which is reasonable, and they don't sell roblox cards in my country, do you want me to go on holiday to buy one?
Nintendocaprisun57 stopping spam since 1999! |
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Ffs stop complaining. If you want to make a game, make a game. If you want to make money out of it, sell gamepasses. Yes, there's 90% tax, so what can you do? You could send your game to that free advertisment email adress that roblox has made, see if it does well and if it does: buy bc. If your game actually does well, you'll have your money back in ONE DAY.
"ROBLOX: ITS NOT FREEEEE! WELL TECHNICALLY IT IS, BUT YOU CANT DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU PAYYYYY!"
That quote is just straight out wrong. Tickets were useless, you have no reason to say that you were able to buy gamepasses with just tickets. Because you couldn't! Let's say the avarage game pass costs 300 robux, now multiply that with 17(value of tickets, and this is even a pretty high guess, it should be more like 20 if you look at the last days) and then divide it with 10(amount of tickets you got each day), you get 510. 510 is the amount of days you'd need to save up(as an nbc) to buy an AVARAGE(not even OP, avarage) gamepass. Then there's developer products, that costs for the cheapest option very often 10 robux(=17 days of saving up for the cheapest, least useful developer product). NBC's don't contribute to the gamepass/developer product market a small bit, with or without tickets. So technically, the removal of tickets won't have an impact on sales whatsoever.
Then there's income on place visits. I do think it's bad that you don't get rewarded for visits anymore... So I support you on that, even though the income of place visits is only a small part of the income for people who take it seriously. Too bad for the smaller developers who don't even sell gamepasses :/ |
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Dr_DogeJoin Date: 2011-12-07
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@Harry
Again, it's not Just Gamepasses. You used to make approximately 1 robux every 15 visits. |
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similar to my suggestion just before yours. |
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