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KoRn started it but Slipknot finished it. |
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YadokingJoin Date: 2011-08-15
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Nu metal is the only good metal
All the other metal genres take no talent tbh |
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i like both bands whoops
and otep
cant forget otep
also drowning pool's sinner was very enjoyable
but thats all the nu metal i like
I'm just rearranging hell. |
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zenazebraJoin Date: 2009-12-21
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RATM
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deftones is the only nu metal i tolerate |
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System Of A Down is on exceptional Nu Metal. And it doesn't need to stand next to s**t to be good. |
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ZokulzohJoin Date: 2009-11-11
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RAYMOO
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UR BACK YO U SHOULD MAKE ANOTHER WATCH MOJO STYLE TOP 10 LIST, I KNOW I HATED THOSE BUT JUST DO IT MAN IT'LL B COOL |
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They put Limp Bizkit at number 2 |
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Sorry I was wrong Deftones is also great, and A Perfect Circle is pretty good. |
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but slipknot only had two nu-metal albums. |
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YadokingJoin Date: 2011-08-15
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"and A Perfect Circle is pretty good."
>Called A Perfect Circle nu metal
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Sorry Ben, but Slipknot has had several Nu-Metal albums. The reason you don't really see it is because Slipknot includes outer elements from metal genres into their sound. Seriously, "The Devil In I" screams nu-metal. |
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@gamefreak
I share your viewpoint |
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"Sorry Ben, but Slipknot has had several Nu-Metal albums. The reason you don't really see it is because Slipknot includes outer elements from metal genres into their sound. Seriously, "The Devil In I" screams nu-metal."
They only have 5 studio albums, what is "several" supposed to mean? Anything less than a precise number doesn't say much. And really, only Slipknot (album) and arguably Iowa are nu-metal, the rest are alternative metal. The Devil in I doesn't scream nu-metal, it screams "we don't use turntables or rapping vocals anymore so stop calling us nu-metal". |
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YadokingJoin Date: 2011-08-15
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Eyeless doesnt have rapping dawg
And just because turntables are common in nu metal does not specifically state it as a main instrument |
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MysTkJoin Date: 2016-02-22
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snop dawg
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>"They only have 5 studio albums, what is "several" supposed to mean? Anything less than a precise number doesn't say much. And really, only Slipknot (album) and arguably Iowa are nu-metal, the rest are alternative metal. The Devil in I doesn't scream nu-metal, it screams "we don't use turntables or rapping vocals anymore so stop calling us nu-metal".
First of all, alternative-metal is a dead genre. It's only occupied by nu-metal bands who don't want to be referred to as nu-metal. Slipknot is solely defined as nu-metal because they were apart of the first wave and still utilizes the style. Slipknot doesn't venture anywhere near alternative. Anyone who thinks they do is obviously confused. Everything from their amp settings, guitars and overall style is not accepted by the alternative genre of music. I mean really, how many mosh pits do you see at an alternative concert? None, unless Chevelle, Smashing Pumpkins or Twenty One Pilots are there.
Alternative-metal pretty much classifies a small group of bands that are pretty damn near hard rock, but are accepted by the alternative genre of music. This includes but isn't limited to: Tool, Chevelle, Three Days Grace, Rage Against The Machine and Breaking Benjamin. As you can see, all of these bands contain similarities. Especially among Chevelle and Tool. They both contain songs that are highly similar to alternative. Primary examples are "Send The Pain Below," "Sober," "Diary of Jane," and "Break." They all utilize a certain melody, sound or outlook in the song that are common in alternative music.
Slipknot, obviously, examples none of those. So, don't go walking around saying "alternative-metal" because it doesn't even exist. It's just a name alternative fans slap on a band they like but are too scared to admit |
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"First of all, alternative-metal is a dead genre."
opinion.
"It's only occupied by nu-metal bands who don't want to be referred to as nu-metal."
or simply a few bands that used to be nu-metal that aren't anymore, and other bands that have been alternative metal and are now. if you think Helmet is nu-metal, i don't know what to say about you anymore.
"Slipknot doesn't venture anywhere near alternative. Anyone who thinks they do is obviously confused. Everything from their amp settings, guitars and overall style is not accepted by the alternative genre of music. I mean really, how many mosh pits do you see at an alternative concert? None, unless Chevelle, Smashing Pumpkins or Twenty One Pilots are there."
you completely lost me bud. first you state that your standards of alternative metal are the only standards of alternative metal (indirectly), and then you just go off rambling baselessly, because apparently you think alternative metal and alternative as a whole have to be the exact same thing. alternative is an umbrella term, not a genre.
"Alternative-metal pretty much classifies a small group of bands that are pretty damn near hard rock, but are accepted by the alternative genre of music."
um, no, it doesn't. it classifies metal bands that have a different style than usual heavy metal. hence ALTERNATIVE metal. also you just contradicted yourself there, earlier you said alt metal is just nu-metal bands that don't want to be called nu-metal, and now this.
"This includes but isn't limited to: Tool, Chevelle, Three Days Grace, Rage Against The Machine and Breaking Benjamin."
only two of those bands are actually alternative metal, where is your point?
"As you can see, all of these bands contain similarities. Especially among Chevelle and Tool. They both contain songs that are highly similar to alternative. Primary examples are "Send The Pain Below," "Sober," "Diary of Jane," and "Break." They all utilize a certain melody, sound or outlook in the song that are common in alternative music.
Slipknot, obviously, examples none of those. So, don't go walking around saying "alternative-metal" because it doesn't even exist. It's just a name alternative fans slap on a band they like but are too scared to admit"
how much slipknot have you listened to? because i've been listening to them since i was 5, and it's pretty safe to say you don't know what you're talking about. slipknot's sound after their first studio album was nothing but alternative. they utilize elements that regular heavy metal doesn't use, but still play in a heavy metal style. |
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wtf is nu-metal
whats the difference between metal and nu-metal
is this a tumblr-gender type thing where everything has to be special |
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"how much slipknot have you listened to? because i've been listening to them since i was 5, and it's pretty safe to say you don't know what you're talking about. slipknot's sound after their first studio album was nothing but alternative. they utilize elements that regular heavy metal doesn't use, but still play in a heavy metal style."
Sorry Ben, but you're the one confusing everyone here. I'm going to break this down for a minute. Let's examine alternative-metal. Here's a few popular bands that people like you tend to say are "alternative-metal." We have: Chevelle, Breaking Benjamin, Three Days Grace, Deftones (we'll discuss them later), Flyleaf, Godsmack, In This Moment, Nonpoint, Papa Roach, Alice In Chains and Rob Zombie. Now, let's drag in the nu-metal bands. For the sake of this argument, I'll spare the list from Slipknot. As far as nu-metal goes, you have: Linkin Park, Disturbed, Evanescence, P.O.D, Drowning Pool, KoRn and Limp Bizkit (We'll discuss them later, too).
Alternative-metal isn't just "an alternative to metal" as you describe it, it's a lot more than that. Any sub-genre can be defined as an "alternative to metal" because it breaks the traditional definition of heavy metal. That's the entire point of a sub-genre. Alternative-metal, as previously stated, is a DEAD GENRE. It's not as known as nu-metal, and quite blatantly, shouldn't be. Alternative-metal was seemingly brought to light when Alice In Chains gained popularity.
Alice In Chains was a particularly deemed as a "heavy" grunge act and introduced the more hard rock side to grunge. Many people cited them as the leader of the alternative-metal movement, but this simply proves my point. They're just a hard rock act accepted by the alternative fan base. Not that grunge was even a genre, but that will be saved for a separate argument. Alternative-metal is either metal with alternative qualities or is a widely accepted hard rock or metal act. An example of this would be Linkin Park, who exemplifies both of my points. They lean towards an alternative approach to nu-metal and are highly associated with the alternative fan base. It's no secret a lot of their songs could be classified as alternative, if it weren't for their song structure.
However, nu-metal gained it's separaction when Limp Bizkit had their famous incident at Woodstock. That is what caused the two genres to fully separate. Nu-metal didn't accept Limp Bizkit and neither did any fans. Alternative-metal simply provided a safe haven for nu-metal acts to flock to and drop comments like "Nu-metal is a joke. I'm alternative-metal" or "I was always alternative-metal." You, like most others, always forget that nu-metal IS an alternative to metal. Infact, it literally is alternative-metal. The whole point of being nu-metal is to fuse alternative and metal into one. That's literally the point. |
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"Sorry Ben, but you're the one confusing everyone here. I'm going to break this down for a minute. Let's examine alternative-metal. Here's a few popular bands that people like you tend to say are "alternative-metal." We have: Chevelle, Breaking Benjamin, Three Days Grace, Deftones (we'll discuss them later), Flyleaf, Godsmack, In This Moment, Nonpoint, Papa Roach, Alice In Chains and Rob Zombie. Now, let's drag in the nu-metal bands. For the sake of this argument, I'll spare the list from Slipknot. As far as nu-metal goes, you have: Linkin Park, Disturbed, Evanescence, P.O.D, Drowning Pool, KoRn and Limp Bizkit (We'll discuss them later, too)."
i'm not confusing anyone, half of your points made literally no sense. and incase you're still confused, i would never call breaking benjamin, three days grace, in this moment, nonpoint, papa roach, or alice in chains alt metal because they're not. they have their own genres, most of them being hard rock or nu-metal (or in alice in chains's case, grunge/alt rock). with that being said, you already "dragged in the nu-metal bands", so the rest of that paragraph is invalid.
"Alternative-metal isn't just "an alternative to metal" as you describe it,"
yes it is.
"Any sub-genre can be defined as an "alternative to metal""
no it can't.
"because it breaks the traditional definition of heavy metal."
no they don't, they add to it. whereas alternative metal differentiates from it. and even if that argument could be made for any other sub-genre, alt metal still has it's own sound like the other sub-genres.
"Alternative-metal, as previously stated, is a DEAD GENRE."
yet again, that's your opinion.
"Alternative-metal was seemingly brought to light when Alice In Chains gained popularity."
you keep bringing up alice in chains. i don't think you understand, they didn't do anything to alt metal aside from maybe influencing it a bit. you keep getting alt metal confused with every other alternative genre.
"They're just a hard rock act accepted by the alternative fan base."
no, they're just an alt rock/grunge act accepted by alt rock and grunge fans.
"Not that grunge was even a genre, but that will be saved for a separate argument."
let me stop you right there; you can't dictate what is and isn't a genre because you have no control over what a band decides to call themselves or what they do with their sound. that's what this argument is about too, you were trying to enforce that slipknot is nu-metal despite the fact that only one of their studio albums was completely nu-metal. and then you went off on a baseless rant about how alt metal isn't a genre. but before you start another argument about whether or not grunge is a genre, let me go ahead and say that i've stopped caring about your take on what is and isn't a genre. think what you want to think. |
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zenazebraJoin Date: 2009-12-21
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did this guy just say grunge isnt a genre lol
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IF 21 PILOTS SHOWS HAVE MOSH PITS! WTF DO ACTUAL BANDS HAVE!!!!!!
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