p3elJoin Date: 2011-06-10
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everyone got the analogy but you, and how it applies accurately lol.
people that were in VAK, and TGI got it.
someone that hasn't been in either didn't.
shocking, wow.
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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go ahead and try explaining your analogy
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p3elJoin Date: 2011-06-10
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Im not gonna explain anything over again wannabet, you're the only person on the threads you make, to not get anything anybody says against your OPINION, emphasis on OPINION, and the people against you are almost ALWAYS in the clans you're referring too.
I REFUSE to waste time explaining anything to an idiot analyzing clans he had no part in EVER lol.
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BubsvJoin Date: 2015-12-05
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I've thoroughly explained and given plenty of competent arguments sylas, it's just people who think otherwise completely throw said argument out the window because they don't wanna accept it
I've said all that can be said, it's apparent that no matter what some people are never going to be convinced no matter how many facts you provide so I guess we're done here
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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oh so in summary you don't actually have any arguments and don't know what you are talking about es
good to know
clearly one with an argument would've expressed his position rather than be immediately offended when asked to provide an explanation other than 'lance Armstrong cheat = vak therefore vak is lose XD!' |
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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es argument laid out:
'lance Armstrong was disqualified for doping by the Olympic committee. that means lance Armstrong is vak (because of cheating ukno lol?) and vak lost'
bubz argument:
'well even if they have won, they didn't do it fair and square. this proves that they are worse than tgi because they had to cheat to win'
fantastic arguments boys |
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BubsvJoin Date: 2015-12-05
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Are you actually autistic?
Ask any normal ass person in the world. Cheating to acquire a "win" nullifies the win. What he was saying was that Lance Armstrong was considered the victor of the Tour De France and won many times, but the minute it was proven that he had cheated to win, he was immediately stripped of all his wins.
The same applies for VAK. It was proven they had to cheat to begin winning defenses, and thus disqualifies any supposed victory after said cheating began. We proved we were superior for 2 weeks on completely fair terms and defeated them 27-1.
If you STILL cannot understand this, then my god you need to start wearing a helmet to school. End of discussion. |
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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cheating nullifies the win if it's specified in a set of agreements. if doping wasn't against the rules set by the Olympic committee then he would not have been disqualified.
if it isn't specified in a set of agreements due to the stupidity of your own leaders it can't be called out for. if your response to cheating is also cheating then you lose your upper hand and have no choice to remain in the fight.
quit recounting the raid score when the premise was endurance (which you set up by the way LOL) and lost
you lost because your own stupidity and you need to quit whining to others about the decisions you made which cost you the war |
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BubsvJoin Date: 2015-12-05
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We specifically stated no updates could be made to either base that would be OP for either side, and I'd say VAK making the base impossible to win at is pretty god damn OP for the defenders.
There you go. War terms, a specified set of agreements, were breached by VAK, thus nullifying any claim to a "win" that they have. If you want to get even more technical, and I know you do because I'm actually convinced you have some form of autism and you can't comprehend anything besides the literal meaning of things, then TGI "cheating" further down the line as well in response to VAK would also nullify our claim as well, meaning the war is a draw.
Either way, you not being in either clan and not even partaking in the war makes your recounting of it irrelevant. Seems to be a common theme with you, seeing as you've never been in a relevant clan or done anything worth mentioning. |
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5ancuJoin Date: 2015-12-31
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he's basing his entire argument on the words of castellian, a user who wasn't even involved with the war during the time vak was actually cheating. that's how you know his argument is flawed. |
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5ancuJoin Date: 2015-12-31
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also, is he completely forgetting operation pinch? a documentation of vak cheating on several occasions? i'm not talking in the one to tens, i'm talking thirty to forty occasions for each charge. |
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BubsvJoin Date: 2015-12-05
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That and he's mostly basing it off of complete technicalities
Since it was an "endurance war" and VAK never surrendered, then it's impossible for them to have lost. Well by that logic it's impossible for TGI to have lost since our actual leader at the time never surrendered either.
I give up, I feel bad for this kid's parents |
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5ancuJoin Date: 2015-12-31
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@Bubs,
you forget to address the fact that VAK Officers literally ordered VAK not to be more than 3 in a server, so as to ensure no server would become official. Basically deciding not to defend, thus not enduring in a war of endurance.
Thus losing. |
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5ancuJoin Date: 2015-12-31
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There genuinely was a screenshot posted on either the Officer wall or the TGI group wall.
I'm genuinely inclined to go look for it just to prove this fool wrong. |
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I can link the VAK Officer things if you want.
Shows VAK Officers admitting that TGI was owning them and that they would send in a bunch of VACs to not make servers official. |
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Matthais5Join Date: 2012-04-19
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Really? Because it looks like it was a tie for me if what Castellian said was true.
Both sides broke rules, Vaktus apologized, Castellian didn't want a rematch. |
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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where are the terms that state they cant act unethically. toberdam went into this war without any regulatory terms on how clans conduct themselves.
furthermore, if those terms were made (and you need to present evidence of that), why did tgi decide to drop out after cheating to the same degree vak has.
sorry but you can't say that you're dropping out of an endurance war due to unethical behavior (especially if there are no agreed upon restrictions to it) AFTER you decide to act in the same manner
tgi kept on fighting and cheated in response to vak's cheating, and then it gave up and lost. |
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5ancuJoin Date: 2015-12-31
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It's not our fault you weren't around for the time the war was actually declared. You need to educate yourself if you want to make an argument on the matter. |
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BubsvJoin Date: 2015-12-05
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i literally just listed the exact war term that they broke
it wasn't just about "unethical behavior", it actually lists that they can't do exactly what they did
someone else can link the war term thread if they can find it, i'm tired of talking to a wall |
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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sorry but if you're making the argument that war conduct nullifies their victory then you're the one in need of proof
toberdam did not decide to have the war regulated by certain conduct terms as far as i know, and even if he did it means little to me because again - tgi dropped AFTER it decided to cheat.
had it not cheated in the first place, their decree would've been acceptable IF there were conduct terms which enabled them to do that. |
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p3elJoin Date: 2011-06-10
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u guys are wasting your time, if you get the proof he won't change his opinion.
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5ancuJoin Date: 2015-12-31
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Brb, finding a thread from 3 years ago with ROBLOX' terrible search system.
kappa
No, you need proof that there were no terms, it's not our problem you suffer from dementia. |
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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ok |
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5ancuJoin Date: 2015-12-31
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The thread was probably deleted because VAK couldn't take the heat, literally can't find it, or any mention of it.
Tried searching anything that could be included in it (Vaktovia, Arcadia, War Declaration, Declaration of War, Endurance, the people who could have signed it, whatever). |
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