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cybersquat, are you finally done? Or are you going to continue this argument? |
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Rodash22Join Date: 2012-09-29
Post Count: 1178 |
ROBLOX won't make this site a country.
We're not citizens, we're users. |
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"Two words: student council"
I don't know where you go to school, but where I go to school, student council doesn't decide major renovations and approve new staff.
"Roblox players are like citizens/residents to Roblox. Do I need to say more?"
We are not citizens. We do not have rights. By using this site, we are subject to the rules and regulations. That's what you agreed to upon signing up.
"It kinda is relevant to the topic of companies."
Frankly, nobody cares if you "plan to make your own company." That does not make you any more persuasive with this idea.
"If that's the situation, then let me say this: Apple almost went bankrupt without Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs came back to Apple and saved it. Imagine Roblox as Apple and we the Robloxians as Steve Jobs."
Again, Steve Jobs actually contributed to the company and helped run it. Roblox players do nothing but complain that they have no say in the updates, such as yourself.
"Roblox could make MORE money with this update, and no one says no to money!"
No, Roblox would lose control of the company with everyone saying "no" to update proposals. Roblox would remain the same forever, which would cause other games to lead and Roblox ultimately failing.
"Well they probably haven't read this thread. Remember when you said that it was a lie that Roblox moderators check the S&I daily?"
That's exactly my point.
"Plus, the lucky people who get elected are going to improve Roblox, not turn it into trash."
This is an online game, not a real-life democratic republic.
"(Remember you have to be 13+ to be elected or to vote)"
People lie about their age.
"I don't have a mental issue."
Having a twisted mindset and having a mental issue are two different things. You could look it up, if you'd like.
"Not even a billion people combined would've came up with a great idea such as this."
The oozing narcissism. Out of the billions of people in the world, do you really believe that you're the only one who can come up with ideas?
"some people don't have the care to listen to certain opinions (no offense.)"
Sweetheart, you're in S&I. If you don't want to listen to people's opinions, you should've locked the thread.
"Can you be more specific about what I said?"
It's your thread. Figure it out.
"I said we the Robloxians make the games that other Robloxians play! We're more than just customers. Roblox HQ doesn't make the games, the community does."
No, we are only customers. We will always be just customers in the execs' eyes. Even if a few people stop making games, there will always be someone who will see the opportunity to gain wealth (DevEx) and make a game. Roblox is an outlet for imagination, not to rant about your political beliefs (and applying them where it was never meant to be applied).
"Re read that 5 times and then tell me your opinion."
My opinion hasn't changed, sweetheart.
"You can continue saying I'm a sick, mentally damaged person"
Again, there is a difference between having a twisted mindset (fueled by your narcissism) and having a mental disorder. I pity that you lack the basic mental capacity to differentiate between the two.
"but I will make sure that this idea is accepted."
Good luck with that, kiddo.
"These arguments are wasting my time."
Oh, the narcissism. These arguments are from people who have differing opinions. If you, a bigot, doesn't like that, then you can go to the various other subforums of Roblox.
"Why can't people just support this?"
Because the entire idea is flawed. People are giving their arguments and you just obstinately refuse to address them. You repeat the same mindless mantra. "I'm right you're wrong," "I'm the one out of billions to come up with such a 'great' idea," etc. If you want to be accepted in this subforum, you're going to have to find a cure for your bigotry.
"Any flaws, I will find a solution."
We've pointed out the flaws and you succeed at failing to find any solutions or even properly addressing them.
"are you finally done? Or are you going to continue this argument?"
Sweetie, I'm only done if you are. |
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I haven't seen a reply in a while. I suppose one of the two (or both) things occurred:
1. OP admitted he's wrong
2. OP is dead |
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I had to go to sleep. I'm not on the forums 24/7. |
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Im actually surprised this thread lasted this long. But cybersquat, it's as only as long as you made it. |
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I can make it as long as you want. It is your thread after all and it's only over if you say so. I'm still expecting a long response. |
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dliio23Join Date: 2012-04-01
Post Count: 496 |
4chan would raid and say no to great updates. |
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"student council doesn't decide major renovations and approve new staff."
Not that many students would care. I mean a change that will affect all students, just like a big update from Roblox affects its users. A big school change would include: changing the school schedule and moving test dates.
"We are not citizens."
Ok, so users and citizens have differences. I'll admit that, but that doesn't mean I'm done with this idea.
"That does not make you any more persuasive with this idea."
Actually, it does. A good businessman would know what he's doing. I put a lot of thought and logic into this before I released this thread to the S&I.
"Again, Steve Jobs actually contributed to the company and helped it. Roblox players do nothing but complain that they have no say in the updates, such as yourself."
Not exactly. I actually looked up on the Roblox forums if there were any similar ideas to this "Roblox Democracy" thread, and I only found one, and it was written years ago. I actually should be glad that I'm not the only one who promotes democracy. Also, Robloxians are more than complainers. They buy Robux and Builders Club and participate in the community (such as forums, groups, and games). Roblox is more like family. Roblox is more than a game.
"No, Roblox would lose control of the company with everyone saying "no" to update proposals."
Out of the 20 members that serve in the Roblox Decision Team, some people would say yes. And some updates could be approved, it they seem good enough! And here come another idea: if 3/4 or more of the Roblox Staff say the opposite of what the Roblox Decision Team says, then the Roblox Decision Team's vote can be overridden. This way the Roblox Staff remains powerful.
"That's exactly my point."
Well they'll never know if they never read. And let's be honest, they'll eventually read the S&I.
"People lie about their age."
Actually, when you sign up to be younger than 13, you can't change your age. If you logged in with an age 13+, then you can change your age. And remember, immature people get kicked from the Roblox Decision Team.
"Out of the billions of people in the world, do you think you're the only one who came up with the ideas?"
Well if you're talking about THIS Roblox Democracy Idea, then no. Again, I only found one other guy that written a similar idea on S&I, but it was written years ago. If you're taking about all the ideas on the world, then no.
"If you didn't want to listen to people's opinions, you should've locked the thread."
Well, then this thread wouldn't have been on the front pages. You know what, I do wanna listen to people's opinions. People can keep giving me their opinions.
"It's your thread. Figure it out."
Ownership of an item does not always mean you know the location of an item. I'll try to find it but no guarantees. I'll reply once I find the post.
"No, we are only customers."
I'm actually beginning to see your point. But when someone goes to a clothing store and buy a shirt that doesn't fit they don't say,"This shirt doesn't fit! But I can't return it! I'm a lowly customer with no right to tell what the company does. Looks like I'll just have to keep this shirt and realize I just blew $20 on it." No, that's not what they say.
Done yet? Or are you going to haunt me again? |
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This is everything I've ever said in this thread. (And some weren't even said until now.)
Roblox Decision Team- a team of 20 members that decide on the approval or rejection of updates
"Will this affect Roblox Staff?"
Not too much, The Roblox Decision Team will not announce updates then approve or reject it. They will wither say yes or no. And if 3/4 of the Roblox Staff say the opposite of what the Roblox Decision Team says, then the Roblox Decision Team's opinion will be overridden, even if it's a 20/20 vote. If 3/4 or more of Roblox Staff say the opposite of what the Roblox Decision Team says, that means the Roblox Staff know what's good for Roblox.
"What about botting and alternate accounts?"
CAPTCHA
6 months old account or older
"But ax, it's a country, not a company!"
Board of Directors- elected officials that represent a company and are not random employees who are money hungry. They make all the decisions a company does (such as firing Steve Jobs). I'm pretty sure Roblox doesn't have one of these.
"We're not employees."
True. But here's a scenario. One man walked to a store and bought a pair of jeans. It didn't fit. He wanted to return it but he thought to himself,"Wait! I can't return this because I have no right to tell the company what to do! Looks like I just wasted $15 of this and will never be able to wear it." Obviously, that scenario would never happen.
Minimum Requirements for Voting
6 month old account
Linked to an email account
13+
Participant in at least one Roblox group
Minimum Requirements for being a Candidiate
12 month old account
Linked to an email account
13+
Leader of at least one Roblox group.
You have to make a speech during the 2 weeks of voting time
"What if a person lies about their age?"
Immature people get kicked from the Roblox Decision Team and only get one warning.
"How about massive Roblox groups that can persuade all their members the vote for one person?"
I promote that because they're all part of the community. Besides, wouldn't the members also have to think the candidate is good, too?
"What if a friend makes your speech?"
If you do not fulfill the promises you made in your speech, then people will not trust you to vote you again.
"How long can you be a Roblox Decision Team member?"
1 year. You can be re elected as many times as you like.
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Did I say wither? I meant to say either.
And by re elected as many times as you like, I mean you can have as many terms as you want and can serve on the Roblox Decision Team as long as people will vote for you. |
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After reading page 9, tell me what your opinion is. |
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Support of this idea is gladly accepted. |
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If there's a flaw I didn't mention tell me. And make sure you read page 9 before suggested any flaws that could happen, because I usually end up repeating solutions. |
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SeungliuiJoin Date: 2011-07-05
Post Count: 633 |
I really think they shouldn't do this.
1. This site is filled with kids, whom many think any update is terrible (Take the profile and 3.0 update for example)
2. ROBLOX is a company, not a democracy. |
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RBLX should do this really, not for us but themselves. A lot of people have quit because of horrible updates. The problem is that this could really jeopardize them financially when they need money, if they put off the vote and do what they want players will be pissed and quit. It is bad for us and them in the end, so forget my first statement. |
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Response to DABOSS2748
Thanks for your support. I'm glad other people like this idea. |
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@Seung
Ok, you might've not read the entire page 9. I suggest reading it.
Some kids are never grateful. |
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Any more flaws anyone would like to mention? |
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This thread is 9 pages long. Wow. |
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Haven't seen any negative posts on a while. I guess now people are thinking this is a good idea. |
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Still no negative posts. Looks like this idea is becoming good! |
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