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SeanSeverloh
#198991429Friday, September 23, 2016 10:29 PM GMT

You GAVE the person ownership of the group, therefore it is YOUR fault and your fault only. Buying/selling/trading groups on www.roblox.com is against the rules so you can't even use that as an excuse or reason that you were 'scammed' Unless someone got onto your account, gave himself leadership to the group, and refused to give it back, it isn't scamming nor is it against Roblox rules.
Jayvex
#198991616Friday, September 23, 2016 10:32 PM GMT

As if anyone follows ROBLOX rules if that were the case, I never scammed Privox out of Stratus I guess. heh
RaRaawesome99
#198991626Friday, September 23, 2016 10:33 PM GMT

Hello
EmperorRyzoft
#198991735Friday, September 23, 2016 10:34 PM GMT

It is not impossible. Scamming is when someone does not hold their part of the deal. Some people can be very manipulative so don't always blame it on the victim.
SeanSeverloh
#198991781Friday, September 23, 2016 10:35 PM GMT

It is 100% the owners choice to 'give' someone a group. If they get 'scammed' then it's not within anyones power to prove that they were scammed. Again, it's different if they got onto your account and did it themselves, but if I were to give someone a group right now, it is completely my choice to do so, and any consequences are therefore mine to bare if it goes wrong.
KatLegacy
#198991868Friday, September 23, 2016 10:36 PM GMT

It's forbidden on www.roblox.com however, it is NOT forbidden on roadblocks. your move.
nitroyoshi9
#198991880Friday, September 23, 2016 10:36 PM GMT

thats why u use middle man LOL
D_S
#198991889Friday, September 23, 2016 10:36 PM GMT

"Unless someone got onto your account, gave himself leadership to the group, and refused to give it back, it isn't scamming nor is it against Roblox rules." stealing accounts is against rules and is punishable with proof
SeanSeverloh
#198991900Friday, September 23, 2016 10:36 PM GMT

"Scamming is when someone does not hold their part of the deal. Some people can be very manipulative so don't always blame it on the victim." Manipulative or not, it is still the owners >Choice< to give someone a group. There is absolutely no way you can be FORCED into doing it unless it has to do with something outside of Roblox and in that case it isn't a 'scamming' issue anyways. Trading/selling/buying groups is against the rules and it is your own fault if you get 'scammed' 100%
SeanSeverloh
#198991975Friday, September 23, 2016 10:37 PM GMT

DECOM, I agree. That's why I said >Unless< Unless being, unless that is the situation, it isn't against the rules. The overall point here is, if you voluntarily give someone a group, it's your own fault no matter what.
D_S
#198992065Friday, September 23, 2016 10:38 PM GMT

"Manipulative or not, it is still the owners >Choice< to give someone a group." "in that case it isn't a 'scamming' issue anyways." do you know the definition of scamming? "a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle. verb (used with object), scammed, scamming. 2. to cheat or defraud with a scam." to scam is to manipulate someone for your own gain/profit
SeanSeverloh
#198992161Friday, September 23, 2016 10:39 PM GMT

In a real life situation, that would work. But on Roblox, it's against the rules to sell/buy/trade groups therefore it is your own fault.
D_S
#198992162Friday, September 23, 2016 10:39 PM GMT

"The overall point here is, if you voluntarily give someone a group, it's your own fault no matter what." It's still scamming therefor your initial point is invalid scamming is scamming, regardless of the rules. they shouldnt have done it, yeah, no ones arguing that. its their fault? yeah. its scamming though.
NewbControl114
#198992186Friday, September 23, 2016 10:40 PM GMT

Going back on your agreements is lame and people who take groups should be made pariahs in the C&G community for being untrustworthy with something as simple as their word. Not to say it isn't also at fault of the victim for making a stupid choice.
SeanSeverloh
#198992377Friday, September 23, 2016 10:42 PM GMT

According to Roblox, there is no "Deal" when it comes to groups. If you give someone a group, you're giving it to them, period. You cannot buy/sell/trade groups on Roblox.com
D_S
#198992452Friday, September 23, 2016 10:43 PM GMT

thats the rules, yes, but it is still by definition a scam. does not mean roblox has to do anything about giving back the groups/items its still a scam.
SeanSeverloh
#198992626Friday, September 23, 2016 10:46 PM GMT

It's only a scam if by definition there is a deal taking place, and something is promised in return but not delivered. That is impossible on Roblox concerning groups, completely impossible because there is no function for it. When you give a person a group, by default, you must automatically assume there is no deal, and that you're simply giving them the group because that is the only possible function on the website. That being said, it is not a scam, you gave the person the group voluntarily knowing that its impossible to buy/sell/trade groups using functions on the Roblox website.
NewbControl114
#198992759Friday, September 23, 2016 10:48 PM GMT

scam noun 1.a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
SeanSeverloh
#198992821Friday, September 23, 2016 10:49 PM GMT

How is the person you GAVE a group to a fraud? You gave them the group voluntarily knowing that is impossible for any form of trading/selling/buying to take place.

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