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yet he's outperformed most people on the list
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PhilCokeJoin Date: 2010-08-10
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But outperformed most of them how exactly? What specific factors are you using for that assertion? In terms of ERA, 6/10 people on the list have ERAs better than his. Additionally, 6/10 people on that list have more innings pitched. |
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He showed his Hammer in a touching Tribute for Harambe.
Hammers out 4 Harambe. |
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"But outperformed most of them how exactly? What specific factors are you using for that assertion? In terms of ERA, 6/10 people on the list have ERAs better than his. Additionally, 6/10 people on that list have more innings pitched."
he's done better than most starters on the list. you can't compare him to closers for obvious reasons, but i really don't think any of the closers in the NL deserve to win the Cy Young. if someone was perfect on saves, it'd be a different story, but none of those closers deserve it
among starters he's 3rd on the list in strikeouts, 4th in ERA, 2nd in SO/9, tied for 3rd in BB/9
"Syndergaard’s 10.68 K/9 ranks fourth in the league, his 2.11 BB/9 ranks eighth, and his 0.54 HR/9 ranks first. Among the Cy Young candidates mentioned earlier, only Fernandez and Scherzer have struck out more batters per nine, and only Cueto and Kendricks have walked fewer. Syndergaard’s 218 strikeouts are the fourth-most in the league, fewer than only those of Scherzer, Fernandez, and Bumgarner."
"Syndergaard’s dominant performance has put him at the top of the leaderboards in WAR. Fangraphs’s version of WAR, which relies heavily on fielding-independent metrics, ranks Syndergaard as the best pitcher in the NL, alongside Kershaw. Baseball-Reference’s WAR, which uses run prevention as its baseline, ranks Syndergaard fifth. An average of the two WAR metrics places the Mets’ righty as the third-best pitcher in the league."
and he's doing all this with one of the least effective offenses in baseball, the Mets rank 25th in the league in batting average, 26th in hits, 22nd in RBIs, meanwhile all the Cubs pitchers on the predictor are getting all the run support in the world. |
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PhilCokeJoin Date: 2010-08-10
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Okay, so then the main thing that would really hold him back would be the fact he's only got like a little over 180 innings pitched. (Yeah, Kershaw's got even fewer innings pitched, but I think we both know the reason that he just makes the list.) |
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i'm not saying he should win the cy young, i'm not even saying he should be top 4 or 5 in the poll, but the fact that ESPN isn't including him on it is stupid |
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and by poll i mean the predictor/cy young voting |
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actually, he probably should be #10 on the list. I mean, yeah, you can't forget Kershaw's incredible ERA, but even so, only just under 150 innings pitched shouldn't qualify |
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fernandez will win because he had a good season and because he died, let's be honest |
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@BroBro
yeah, well, I will say that those 253 Ks in 182 innings do certainly stand out |
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i think Bumgarner should be higher, Arrieta lower, and Syndergaard at 7 or 8
idk why Cueto is so high when Syndergaard is outperforming him in every category except wins and innings pitched lol
also I think Kenley should be lower cause he has the most blown saves out of all the closers on that list
imo it should be
1. Scherzer
2. Lester
3. Hendricks
4. Bumgarner
5. Cueto
6. Jansen
7. Syndergaard
8. Arrieta
9. Kershaw
10. Melancon
maybe switch Scherzer/Lester and Melancon/Familia |
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PhilCokeJoin Date: 2010-08-10
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yeah, fair enough |
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Scherzer deserves Cy Young
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sucks Kershaw had to get hurt because he'd be such a runaway winner if he stayed healthy :/ |
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>fernandez will win because he had a good season and because he died, let's be honest
...there is literally 0% chance this will happen
literally 0%
there is no precedent, there are many other pitchers in the NL better than he was, and it would be stupid and gimmicky and quite frankly disrespectful
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actually i'd throw Fernandez in there over Melancon
the dude is still 2nd in the NL in strikeouts and the people above him/below him require so many more innings to be there with him
honestly he should be around where Arrieta is, he's outplayed Arrieta on everything except innings pitched, and could be tied with Arrieta with wins if he was still with us
so maybe 8. Fernandez, 9. Arrieta, 10. Kershaw |
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