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Vigilanties
#206429885Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:21 AM GMT

People have this misconception that we simply don't allow regular members to defend, this simple isn't true. On our discord we have a Borealis and a Celeste notifier than lets us know every time someones raiding. Only the warfare committee, FoL, and high ranks can see this for obvious reasons (for you people that are a little slow, it's because we have a TON of people on our discord and we don't want the complete randoms defending). FoL are just the first people to join the server thats why they're always defending, whether you believe that or not it's the truth.
starpilot12
#206429932Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:22 AM GMT

i heard you also have a notification when a girl joins rat hasn't gone off since 2013 starpilot12
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#206429974Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:23 AM GMT

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Vigilanties
#206429988Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:23 AM GMT

@starpilot That would have been hilarious if it was true
guges
#206430028Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:24 AM GMT

Oh yeah obviously dude making sure your elite members know about a raid first wouldn't play any part in keeping lower level members from defending
Jaleox
#206430051Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:25 AM GMT

Glory to Frostaria!
Vigilanties
#206430075Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:25 AM GMT

@guges Go to the RAT discord and tell me how many of those people you'd like to be the first to respond to a raid in a war. It's not elitism, it's just us making sure we have a fair chance.
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#206430091Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:26 AM GMT

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guges
#206430122Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:27 AM GMT

I don't think it's a bad thing but don't pretend like it's not elitism.
brokenIight
#206430185Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:28 AM GMT

No one in RAT is against letting lower ranking members defend (we even have an entire division dedicated to teaching low ranks to defend/raid/train) the problem is most of the time we get raided it's by groups like VAK/CSP/FoA. People will be quick (as shown on this thread) to insult RAT on anything they possibly can even if it means being disgustingly ignorant.
Vigilanties
#206430219Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:29 AM GMT

Elitism would be denying anyone except for FoL a chance to defend.
guges
#206430755Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:43 AM GMT

Dario now we're just talking semantics.
DividedFallout
#206430805Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:45 AM GMT

I want to say its elitism on a lesser level. Dmoney has a point that they wouldn't let anyone have a chance to defend besides FoL, but to an extent the better members have the first entry to the server. Honestly it's w/e. If you raid RAT, expect FoL members.
guges
#206430873Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:47 AM GMT

@Soroff, really dude? I'm not even criticizing rat, I don't think the elitism is bad. I'm just criticizing OP not calling it for what it is lol. "Disgustingly ignorant" LOL
Tottenham_Hotspur
#206431122Thursday, January 05, 2017 7:55 AM GMT

"People have this misconception that we simply don't allow regular members to defend, this simple isn't true." "(for you people that are a little slow, it's because we have a TON of people on our discord and we don't want the complete randoms defending)." lmao
eeoa
#206431787Thursday, January 05, 2017 8:16 AM GMT

Guges why are you talking when AcR literally doesn't shout defenses and calls only elites/TSL/high ranks to defend :/ R0AST3D5
Beebart
#206431881Thursday, January 05, 2017 8:18 AM GMT

If they're on discord, surely they're competent enough to have comms and thus defend to some extent.
SnoopDogg
#206431904Thursday, January 05, 2017 8:19 AM GMT

how about you just take fol off the notification list to give other members a fair chance...? sauce
Vigilanties
#206447915Thursday, January 05, 2017 4:36 PM GMT

Snoop I outlined that in the post
ForgedVoid
#206448205Thursday, January 05, 2017 4:42 PM GMT

You don't know how long RAT has been wanting to war someone that RAT as a whole can partake in, FEAR was an option and it would've been something fun for everyone, but sadly they didn't want to war us. And if we warred any other group, like SC, FoA, SURGE, anyone really, we all know that it's going to be an 'elitist' war, even with SC, when you have people like Mikenize on the other side who'd do anything to beat RAT (since he has yet to), it's going to be hard to get a base where we don't need people on TS3, or we don't need to be selective at rallies. Even bases like Borealis and Briscald are elitist, whether you change up the numbers or not (and we know the numbers are always going to be around 8v14, 10v15, etc)
CrixianX
#206448403Thursday, January 05, 2017 4:47 PM GMT

I just remember when I was in RAT during the TCC war. There was probably only one raid/defense in which regular members were allowed to participate. That was a dumb war which wasn't fun for most of RAT. I hope you make SC vs RAT different.
ForgedVoid
#206448460Thursday, January 05, 2017 4:48 PM GMT

It won't be different as I just explained Most wars NEVER will be like that, where most members can partake, because of the mindset all clans have now, and of course not wanting to lose.
Locust_1
#206448558Thursday, January 05, 2017 4:51 PM GMT

Let elites defend any clan I will still raid and prosper. 🤔💯
assassin_lord
#206448695Thursday, January 05, 2017 4:55 PM GMT

Your members won't get any better if they can never get in the server though.
Utsuroido
#206448911Thursday, January 05, 2017 5:00 PM GMT

Idk why people are complaining when their fol quit the game nobody will be able to defend since they never let them in so i mean it's a win win situation for everyone

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