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nice
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the ignorant should not be teachers
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bro its way worse having a liberal sociology teacher
gender this gender that blah blah i hate trump blah blah blah
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ZullwayJoin Date: 2013-10-21
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Every day at the beginning of class my teacher pulls up an anti-trump comic strip
On Friday it said something along the lines of a Native American telling white people to keep their oil pipes out of their land
I then told my teacher that the native Americans who own the land, already ship oil through it by rail road, which is far more dangerous than pipelines
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Bryce200Join Date: 2008-04-06
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All teachers are libs
you learn that quick.
~Never forget Allocated's Pharmacy |
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ZullwayJoin Date: 2013-10-21
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@speak
Anyone with a thought process. |
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InfusiveJoin Date: 2011-08-19
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you have no right to tell anyone how they should use their land unless it is effecting other people. fact of the matter is they dont want the pipeline through their land. |
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the pipeline won't even affect them anyways
and it will allow us to not rely on other countries for oil or something like that (idk i think i heard that from someone, don't know if it's true)
i don't see why people are complaining about the immigration ban tbh, it's to keep us more safe, not a race thing at all |
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I don't have a problem with Donald Trump, but I do have a problem with CNN and the biased hate garbage they tell everyone on the news about him. |
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Not sure either why the ban is so contentious.
I don't agree with it much, but it's only 90 days...
Is the world seriously that impatient lol. I'm pretty sure these refugees waiting to be vetted aren't being sent back into warzones because they have to wait a couple of months before flying in. |
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You really showed her im sure she went home and drank herself into a stupor after you straight roasted her |
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InfusiveJoin Date: 2011-08-19
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tell me more about how its ok to force somebody to do something with THEIR land because "it wont affect them anyways" |
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Many individuals upset about the ban are upset due to one of the following:
1) The exclusion of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and other wahhabiists when the EO was ostensibly put forth to protect American citizens. The number of attacks by nationals of those countries on US soil far outnumber the seven on Trump's list.
2) The ban, at least in its early stages, applied to individuals with dual citizenship, green cards, or student visas. These individuals had already undergone vetting by the USA and were licensed to legally enter the nation.
3) The absence of just cause. There seems to be no pressing danger that would justify the ban. It seems to be based on fear, and not much else.
4) The sloppy execution. Members of the DHS and the USCIS were not informed of the executive order before it was issued, nor was any delay put in place allowing those agencies to prepare for its enforcement.
5) The EO is currently halted by a stay, pending further judicial/legislative review.
I'm sure people have other reasons that aren't quite as justified, but these are the top 5 that can be argued in my opinion. |
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Infusive: what happens when a man divorces his #### and has to pay child support and hand over half the monetary value of their "shared" assets? what is imminent domain? what is the quartering of troops? The US government can enforce imminent domain as it pleases b0ddy. |
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It's probably worth noting that the list compiled by the Obama administration in 2015 wasn't a list for an outright ban; it was a list of nations that had to undergo additional vetting to enter the United States. Trump's decision to outright ban all nationals from those nations was his own. |
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I stopped reading at ostensibly because I only speak english and the people in the banned countries dont speak english either so honestly they're lucky we only banned them from entering we should send a missile through their front door |
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InfusiveJoin Date: 2011-08-19
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"imminent domain" is the best argument you have? |
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Nations are a social contract between the people and the governed. The natives near the Keystone Pipeline have their own contract with the government of the United States, which Trump has seen fit to violate.
Shouldn't it concern the citizens of the USA that the government isn't holding itself to its traditional promises, particularly as it applies to the autonomous native communities? |
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1- Reasonable, except it's not Trump's list but Obamas iirc
2- Good point, didn't the white house reverse this to account for that, though?
3- That's like saying there's not just cause for alphabetically organizing files in a filing cabinet vs them being organized numerically. Trump admin wants to change the vetting process to its standards- simple as that.
4- That's interesting, but doesn't that actually pan out in support of refugees? Orders down the chain of command typically face obstacles- even in the military. But interesting thing indeed.
5- Iirc, doesn't the POTUS have the ability to go over congress' heads for a period of time?
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Governments been abusing natives since white people arrived in america idk why its such a surprise they'd violate a social contract |
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Infusive:
No, there's plenty of instances where you can tell people how to use their land no matter how it affects them.
Take for example instances where city ordnance forbids "eye soars" on property, or sets a limit for the height of structures.
This could prevent the construction of solar energy panels for some. There was some video and case popularized for how ridiculous the situation was.
So? If there are legal precedents for telling people how to use land despite its personal impact on them, how can you argue against the pipeline? Because your best and only argument was just, you know, totally squished here. |
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"1- Reasonable, except it's not Trump's list but Obamas iirc"
-Trump signed the order. He could have added Saudi Arabia at any time. Further, see my previous reply about the difference between Obama's and Trump's use of the list.
"2- Good point, didn't the white house reverse this to account for that, though?"
-It never should have happened in the first place.
"3- That's like saying there's not just cause for alphabetically organizing files in a filing cabinet vs them being organized numerically. Trump admin wants to change the vetting process to its standards- simple as that."
-You're proposing a radical change to a system that's working, with no guarantee that your system will even be half as effective.
"4- That's interesting, but doesn't that actually pan out in support of refugees? Orders down the chain of command typically face obstacles- even in the military. But interesting thing indeed."
-This does work out in favor of the refugees, but people opposed to the order for this reason tend to see it as a lack of foresight on the President's end. Our country needs to be run well.
"5- Iirc, doesn't the POTUS have the ability to go over congress' heads for a period of time?"
-Yes, but they will ultimately check his power. The judicial branch already has, giving Congress enough time to discuss the EO. |
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iu8Join Date: 2011-11-02
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"I don't agree with it much, but it's only 90 days...
Is the world seriously that impatient lol. I'm pretty sure these refugees waiting to be vetted aren't being sent back into warzones because they have to wait a couple of months before flying in."
Are you serious? This is the worst reason I've seen yet. At least the other reasons have some excuse over terrorism. You are saying it is not bad because it is only 90 days? Would you like to be held up at the border reentering the country for 90 days? What if you had kids and a job to get to? You would probably not survive without www.roblox.com for that long. Also, the ban is not only on refugees... US green card holders are being held up at airports right now. |
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