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Imbresearching it myself as well. Does it matter where you get your undergraduate if you're going to graduate school anyway? |
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KenamaticJoin Date: 2009-06-09
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Sirs not in College. |
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"Sirs not in College."
hey idiot, neither are you and jimbo
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but yes it does matter. attending a better undergrad program (and getting good grades!!!) by the major helps a ton but the main thing when applying to grad school is the application/letters of recommendation and standardized tests like the GRE |
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jimbobuckyTop 100 PosterJoin Date: 2008-06-01
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"Sirs not in College."
hey idiot
...that is all.
And yeah it matters, along with how successful you are in college. The better combination of undergrad/grades, the better chance you have to get into a better college. Grad schools know that some colleges are harder in others, so they will look more favorably on a Berkeley student than a Santa Cruz student, for example.
"GRE"
Are you saying..............I HAVE TO TAKE MORE STANDARDIZED TESTS..........DAMN IT |
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no it doesn't.
You can go to a bad undergrad school and still get into a good grad school.
Just like you can go to a bad public school and still get into a good undergrad school. |
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It doooeeessss matter kinda.
If you're low income and don't have an option but pass with upwards of a 4.0 then no one's gonna care where you're coming from.
But a guy getting a 3.2 or something from a good school and a guy getting a 3.2 from a bad school are very different. |
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"You can go to a bad undergrad school and still get into a good grad school.
Just like you can go to a bad public school and still get into a good undergrad school."
University of Texas at Austin admissions data for undergrads coming from the high school where I was zoned to go (Unranked on Newsweek's 2016 Top High Schools/#1414 on US News and World Report's Best High Schools) versus the high school where I decided to transfer into (#48 on Newsweek's Top High Schools/#249 nationally in US News and World Report's Best High Schools):
2013, 2014, and 2015 admissions data for "home" high school: 38, 49, and 53 s t udents admitted
201###### # #,#2##5 admissions data for current high school: 100, 125, 124 s t udents admitted
As both schools are right around the same number of students total as of 2016 (2656 vs 2676), we'll assume graduating classes are the same at around 600, also keep in mind Texas House Bill 588 is in effect (graduate in the top 7-8% of your graduating class and you get automatic admission to UT Austin)
600 * 0.08 = 48 students
That means at my old high school, with the exception of ~5 students, you're only admitted if you finish in the top 8% (it's now top 7%), but at my current high school anywhere between 50 and 80 more students can be admitted outside the top 7-8% (such as myself). I don't think I would have been admitted to the state's best public university had I gone the path I was slated to take.
So moldy, at least for the ApplyTexas process, you're dead wrong. |
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All i heard was a bunch of MUMBO JUMBO....
Fact is if you're coming from a bad situation, or maybe you didn't have the money(bad situation) and you went to a community college, or just a bad college, its not going to deter you from getting into a good grad school. It's going to be difficult certainly and the odds are stacked against you but its not impossible. |
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I literally came at you with data and you called it "mumbo jumbo." Suit yourself. I believe you're completely wrong |
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Because it was hashtagged and horribly formatted..
You expected me to actually read that? |
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Sir, percentages don't rly work that way. That's the whole argument of "oh white people are attacked more by police!!" thing
It's really a case by case basis.
You should just do your absolute best no matter where you are. |
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What does you having to be in the top 7% of your class have to do with anything? |
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If ithe (idk what college hes going to) is the top 7% in his class and does internships for his desired major, and helps the community and all that stuff hes not going to get denied just because of the college he went to. |
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"Because it was hashtagged and horribly formatted..
You expected me to actually read that?"
The only thing hashtagged was literally two years. 2014 and 2015. The fact that you didn't read it because two numbers were hashtagged just shows you're on a high horse and don't even want to argue or you're just lazy and refuse to acknowledge the other side
"Sir, percentages don't rly work that way. That's the whole argument of "oh white people are attacked more by police!!" thing
It's really a case by case basis.
You should just do your absolute best no matter where you are."
1) How the hell is that argument made? Wouldn't percentages prove police forces are whiter and min o r it i es######ttacked more often?
2) Well, yes, but universities in Texas respect the Texas Top 10% Law, and after that they look to some of Texas's best high schools and pick from more students from those schools. This has been proven every year. It's not a "case by case basis" in this case study. *I AM AWARE* this may not be the case anywhere else in America, but in America's second largest state that's how it works |
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Perran angry because he going to some crapp college in Texas and im going D1 for lacrosse |
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"If ithe (idk what college hes going to) is the top 7% in his class and does internships for his desired major, and helps the community and all that stuff hes not going to get denied just because of the college he went to."
I think you missed the point
For starters, ithe is in Massachusetts, and I think he's applying to p r iv a te schools, so he has nothing to do with this
What I was saying is that if you finish in the top 7% of your graduating high school class you are guaranteed admission to any public university in Texas. That's a law. Beyond the top 7% you go through the admissions process like anyone else. |
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That has nothing to do with wether you can get in if your at a bad highschool or college lol.. |
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"That has nothing to do with wether you can get in if your at a bad highschool or college lol.."
Yes it does.
In the state of Texas if you go to a bad high school you can say goodbye to getting into the University of Texas or Texas A&M University if you're not in the top 7% or top 10%, respectively, of your high school graduating class, unless you win the admissions counselors' hearts over with powerful and striking essays. Sometimes a near-perfect SAT/ACT score doesn't even save you alone |
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waifuSZNJoin Date: 2012-05-04
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To me it doesn't but there may be grad programs that will look at students who went to more prolific schools than others |
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"but there may be grad programs that will look at students who went to more prolific schools than others" The Ivy League schools, top public schools such as UC Berkeley, Michigan, Virginia, Washington, and Texas, top pr iva te schools such as Sta nfo rd, V an der ##### and Rice, MIT, etc. will definitely look at the school where the student did undergraduate studies and other previous graduate work |
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"Are you saying..............I HAVE TO TAKE MORE STANDARDIZED TESTS..........DAMN IT"
YAH BUDDY LIFE IS ALL ABOUT THE STANDARDIZED TESTS!!! |
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well you prob shouldn't be applying to a top school if you're not in the top 10% or top 7% of a bad highschool now should you.
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"well you prob shouldn't be applying to a top school if you're not in the top 10% or top 7% of a bad highschool now should you."
Exactly
If you're in a bad high school and you're in the 80th percentile of your graduating class you shouldn't even bother applying to a top university
If you're in a high school where you're in the top 29% with a 3.53 GPA, you're at a top high school, and universities recognize that |
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