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I've recently received alot of flak for not including sword clans on my tier lists. There have been more consistent critics and I have responded to them with my reasoning: Sword clans left the clan world as a whole in order to form their own community. I did start including sword clans that "returned" to the united community and accepted wars with gun clans.
However, recently accusations came forth of GUN clans not accepting wars with sword clans. That's just as detrimental to the clan community as sword clans which do not war gun clans.
I don't like to see a world of gun clans and sword clans. I like to see a world of WAR clans, like it used to be. And honestly, if both gun clans and sword clans are saying that the other won't accept their wars, shouldn't the schism be ancient history and can we finally start mending it? Can we finally become one community again?
That's up to you, if you choose to support my proposal, then yes.
My proposal is simple. Penalize clans which refuse wars on the basis of weaponry regardless of guns or swords (with the exception of non gun/sword unique weaponry, which is another fight as training with such unique weapons is harder).
If public support is high enough, this is what I'll start doing to clan tier lists:
-Add any clans which claims to war sword and gun clans to the normal list
-Create a seperate list at the bottom of unranked clans which are unranked for the fact that they do not war with all weaponry
-Clans in the last list can easily tell me they war with all weapons and be added to the real list
In addition, I'd like to propose that the organization WCoR starts excluding these ############ clans which refuse to war clans which do not use their weaponry. They aren't war clans, they're sword clans or gun clans. They should be in Sword Clans of ROBLOX or Guns Only Clan of ROBLOX respectively.
I hope that this helps create a more unified and cohesive clan world. I truly do believe that the weaponry schism is one of the reasons the clan world died (think about it for a second, let's split the clan world into 2 - one community with developmental resources and experience and the other with sheer numbers...)
I encourage all clans to join the Unified Clan World regardless of how much support this proposal gets.
If this proposal does pass, for me and WCoR, I do believe that through proper deterrence we can finally unite the war clan community once more! |
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I understand your standpoint and agree; however, I have serious doubts about the community actually cooperating with each other on this, especially since the divide between sword-only and gun-only clans have led to individuals harboring disgust for the other. But I would support this.
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@Rogue
Yes but I feel like the whole sword/gun war has come into a full circle, with sword clans suddenly blaming gun clans of being the ones who don't accept wars (alt facts but if they're going to say that and gun clans truly are still open to wars with sword clans this will be done)
If we managed to get even the top 5 or 6 sword clans in this the vast majority of swords only clans will follow suit |
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Good point but this community isn't worth the effort, not enough good or willing people to actually make a change. |
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"Top sword clans"
I can talk to Gbronzed or Rezdonox (Royal Blood) about this although I think I'm out of touch with any other "top clans". The way I see it there's still a good amount of tension between the communities and the biggest challenging is moving on from these hostilities and debates over say, which weapon takes more skill to master.
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"which weapon takes more skill to master"
well if we went to wars it'd be obvious that the hardest weapon to master is the At Ease tool |
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Why, I beg to differ. The almighty salute tool, long hailed (no pun intended) for it's ease to handle, has a fire rate faster than any gun. Your lego arm will shoot straight up into a diagonal position in front of your head, and deals more respect to any man or woman that you salute to compared to whatever gun you shall ever use. Your puny "at ease" tool is obsolete in the face of the revolutionary salute. I suggest that you spend a great deal of time contemplating the superiority of the salute tool and get back to me when you become Top 10 fastest saluters. If you wish to challenge a position of a champion saluter like myself, you may 1v1 me at a generic RallyTops because BrickTops is too amateur for such a fierce competition.
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All you need to do to be good at the Salute tool is jump and click. Mastering the at ease tool takes skill and years of training, plus, you ##### #### ### ##### |
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HessarianJoin Date: 2016-03-04
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gun clans practice guns
members join said clans for guns
members expect to use guns
sword clans practice swords
members join said clans for swords
members expect to use swords
trying to war a gun clan with a sword clan is not only forcing members to fight a fight that they originally did not expect (and most likely did not want) but it is also forcing people into unfamiliar weaponry. you could say that guns and swords would both simply be on the map but no one would get close enough to use the swords and the sword clan would be clearly at a disadvantage (plus it'd basically make both clans hybrid clans who only use guns)
if anything, having the communities together is more detrimental to the clan world than by keeping them apart |
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red that's a nice theory but the fact is that we've had a united clan community for the majority of the time groups have been a thing (up till 2013 iirc before swords broke away clean cut)
The only people opposed to this in gun clans are elite RCLers (most VIP recruited noobs fight swords and learn to fight guns)
And in sword clans only sword elitists are opposed (VIP recruited can easily be taught) |
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HessarianJoin Date: 2016-03-04
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just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them an elitist |
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In general the elitists are the ones who oppose these measures
Obviously there's some normal people who do too |
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Well you would need 15 supporters but I don't even know how to implement it
Since genre focus clans focus on their genre does that mean I should ignore them?
I must be a normal person because I am far from good at roblox fighting |
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Genre isn't mainstream clans tho
There's so many "futuristic" sword clans |
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WannaBetJoin Date: 2011-01-01
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no quit introducing stupid ideas |
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ContrioxJoin Date: 2014-02-09
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why would a sword clan war a gun clan in the first place? |
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that's how it used to be ##### |
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