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Blizzardus
#218258035Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:47 PM GMT

so instead of when a raider gets into overtime, and has the terminal and if the defenders get the terminal they instantly win, but not vice-versa (lol, how does that work?) ive decided to put a more fair bet onto what 'overtime' is: instead, how about if the terminal is captured by either team in overtime, and the opposite team captures it before it hits 100%, then it's a draw! OR there is no overtime, so ensuring victory or loss is definite oh and none of this 'well you're the raider you have to capture it in the time' nonsense, if you're in a raid the terms are supposed to be fair for both sides, so dont come in telling me with that BS so there you are, the remade and improved concept of: OVERTIME
XenightTII
#218258101Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:49 PM GMT

no that isn't nonsense the raider team has a set amount of time to capture the term it's actually incredibly nice of the defender team to give overtime instead of just ending the raid this is not broken this is how overtime works have you lived under a rock your whole life or are can you really not understand this?
EssentiaIs
#218258115Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:50 PM GMT

fully agree. a lot of clans idea on overtime is bs
EssentiaIs
#218258172Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:51 PM GMT

no, it is nonsense. the fact that raiders have to hold the terminal throughout THE ENTIRE overtime, is complete bs
Blizzardus
#218258180Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:51 PM GMT

NO, if you're in AN ACTUAL WAR, and you are raiding against each others fort, then the overtime system should NOT be as it currently is. ending the raid is better than losing on completely unfair terms. and its not incredibly nice of the defenders team to give overtime, because it should work on both teams. whether you believe it or not, it's a stupid concept and an unfair system quite clearly, you're either an amateur clanner or just a plain out moron
XenightTII
#218258222Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:52 PM GMT

ok i'll just ignore this because this forum will do nothing and overtime won't change because it's not broken
Blizzardus
#218258246Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:52 PM GMT

the system is unfair anyway, regardless of if it's a war or not. its a stupid concept, whoever designed it and uses it is a complete idiot and it should be revamped. anyone that goes by them terms with me in a raid will not have the privilege to cheat
Aerofall
#218258271Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:53 PM GMT

"no, it is nonsense. the fact that raiders have to hold the terminal throughout THE ENTIRE overtime, is complete bs" But by that point you've been raiding for about an hour to an hour & 1/2. You haven't been able to win up to that point so it's highly unlikely that something would change. You are given one last opportunity to win, it makes sense.
Blizzardus
#218258284Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:53 PM GMT

@xenight you know very well it is, and you're not backing up with any valid points because you're a moron and an amateur clanner leave, because the fact you think overtime is actually fair makes you stupid as it is lol
Exalt_d
#218258308Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:54 PM GMT

Blizzard has been going off on this for months At this point i think he has autism
XenightTII
#218258321Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:54 PM GMT

having a different opinion than op is bad ok understood sir!
Blizzardus
#218258331Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:54 PM GMT

@aerofall it makes absolutely no sense, why should it only be for the raiders team? what if you were in a war, couldnt you just request the battles at your own base so you have the upper hand when it comes to overtimes unfair terms? try to get around that one buddy LOL
punk
#218258354Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:54 PM GMT

clans and guilds r for chumps
Blizzardus
#218258355Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:54 PM GMT

@xenight no, being wrong is wrong. now leave, you've proven yourself to be stupid as it is
Aerofall
#218258374Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:55 PM GMT

Defensive wins don't mean anything so I don't see the point of a loss meaning so much to you.
XenightTII
#218258421Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:56 PM GMT

i just realized this whole thing is more bait than anything do you actually believe this post will do anything to change stuff especially when instead of looking at the opposite point you just call people stupid not gonna get anywhere with this approach my dude
Blizzardus
#218258564Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:59 PM GMT

@xenight no it wasn't an attempt to get attention to change it, but a system that i made by myself that makes it fair for each team. stop going by some stupid system that just because they cant get the term in the time given or keep it on overtime doesnt mean they should lose its a stupid and unfair system, you need to realize that just because it goes by some design that is regular to you, does NOT mean its fair. think about it, how is this whatsoever fair?
Aerofall
#218258640Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:00 PM GMT

If you weren't capable of winning in the first hour - two hours then you probably did something wrong or were just generally not as good as the defending team. It is fair because it still gives you the chance to win while putting an end to the raid if the defenders can take it back.
Aerofall
#218258651Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:01 PM GMT

I'll leave it at that too because all you rebuttal with is whaling sounds.
Blizzardus
#218258664Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:01 PM GMT

@aero not the point buddy. lets say you were in a war, this concept is STILL VALID for most groups that use the overtime rule. now tell me, how is this fair whatsoever? i might as well just give the defenders team 200 health, because the overtime concept is basically the same thing. and REGARDLESS of a war, it's unfair in general anyway
XenightTII
#218258683Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:01 PM GMT

stop going by some stupid system that just because they cant get the term in the time given or keep it on overtime doesnt mean they should lose answer me this if you can't get into the term and hold it within like an 1-2 hours average at most bases why would changing the overtime system change the outcome, again nothing is likely to change if you took that long and couldn't do it anyway. So I think it's fair to the defender team to be able to end it after time allocated to raiders to win.
shiroweeb
#218258761Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:03 PM GMT

didn't you post the same thread months ago
Blizzardus
#218258904Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:06 PM GMT

@xenight it depends on the type of terminal you use, if you use a terminal where both teams have to cap to 1200, then overtime is completely irrelevant, and them sort of bases should be used in WARS but if the raiders have to get it to 1200, and it wasnt an actual war and just a regular raid, then them terms are completely necessary. you do see where im coming from, right? im absolutely fine with the overtime system, im just not fine with HOW it is actually used when it comes down to how a fort works out
Blizzardus
#218258942Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:07 PM GMT

@aerofall clearly you have no idea what im talking about, im only willing to debate with people with good points, such as this guy xen or whatever
BIoodPatriot
#218259153Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:12 PM GMT

lol what pretty common sense, if you're holding the term when the raid time expires you go into overtime. if you lose the terminal after that point, you lose overtime was designed to stop clans/terminals from ending raids due to time limits when raider victory was very likely at that point

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