HarbyngerJoin Date: 2008-07-06
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what actually are the legitimate, rightful functions of government in the first place..?
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19_08Join Date: 2016-01-29
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This is an interesting question if I may be honest.
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Altair551Join Date: 2008-11-23
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literally take a sociology 101 class |
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Altair551Join Date: 2008-11-23
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it really isn't that interesting of a question. the "legitimate" functions of a government are those that the people allow them to take. it's really that simple. the only reason that governments, government documents, etc. have power is because the people let them have power and have an understanding that they have power. the only conflict is when the government's actions comes in conflict with the 'rules' so to speak |
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Jefferson would say in classical liberal thought the only functions of the state were to ensure life libety and the pursuit of happiness.
whereby they simply only defend the realm, enforce contracts and maintain public order
But in modern days this has expanded into a developmental state where it tries to give its people the tools to help themselves such as education etc |
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i'm more speaking from a UK perspective that is less right wing |
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yeah its legal, plus current uk government is trying to setup grammar schools again |
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Altair551Join Date: 2008-11-23
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"what a fedora response"
"the government has power because they have a monopoly on violence"
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isseman6Join Date: 2016-02-16
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altair that depends on the type of government, however i use John lockes definition,and the social contract for the function/reason of government |
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HarbyngerJoin Date: 2008-07-06
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[see the ### discord debates for the full post, I'm not bothering trying to self-censor "becuz feeeeeeeeeelings could be hurt"] tl;dr Logically speaking, the only functions of government that make objective sense are: - Establishment of national identity (ie, borders) - Establishment of a national military (national defense, possibly to spread capitalism to the world) - Assert the Non-Aggression Principle as the law of the land. How it achieves funding for this is something which can be debated, and an ideal and purely logical "one size fits all" conclusion isn't really possible. How long this lasts until it devolves into corporatism is debatable as well, because it inevitably will. All you can do is make it harder/longer to do so. $ echo "Get slam jammed, kid!" && sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root |
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HarbyngerJoin Date: 2008-07-06
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[see the c and g discord debates for the full post, I'm not bothering trying to self-censor "becuz feeeeeeeeeelings could be hurt"]
tl;dr
Logically speaking, the only functions of government that make objective sense are:
- Establishment of national identity (ie, borders)
- Establishment of a national military (national defense, possibly to spread capitalism to the world)
- Assert the Non-Aggression Principle as the law of the land.
How it achieves funding for this is something which can be debated, and an ideal and purely logical "one size fits all" conclusion isn't really possible. How long this lasts until it devolves into corporatism is debatable as well, because it inevitably will. All you can do is make it harder/longer to do so.
$ echo "Get slam jammed, kid!" && sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root |
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