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Before I start, Please, read all of this. It's very important:
ROBLOX, it's been almost 12 years.
And you've gone far.
But let me tell you one thing, or multiple things actually.
Everything you've done, whether it was the removal of tickets, removal of BC, removal of having as many friends as you like, or annoying features or the future forum update.
Have you asked the community if they wanted these updates or some of them even should be classified as downgrades?
Now, I am aware ROBLOX has done some good updates, but they've gone way too far.
First of all, you need to add back Tickets. Let me tell you this.
Let's say you like something ok, and let's say you are 4 years old as an example.
You have something that means so much to you, but after 10 years, IT'S GONE.
No one asked you, just a warning, even though you begged for them not to take it away, and after it was gone u begged for it to come back, it would not be given back.
That's exactly what happened with Tickets.
Some of you will probably say, "what other reasons noob?" well, that won't affect me but I'm still linking this for the reasons about tickets:
https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=221143383
So now about the removal of lifetime BC.
So lifetime BC alongside 6 months BC were removed in August 2015.
So most will be like: "They need the money noob"
Well, you see since ROBLOX is free to play, they could add more in app purchases while keeping the system the same but adding the above things that I mentioned back in.
Like for an example a purchase where you don't pay tax when you sell something for like $30 I don't know
Or someone that someone I know suggested (WHICH IS NOT MY IDEA) that there should be something called "Scripter's club" which is like builders club but it's a different division of membership that can basically do other things (which is what the guy said, not my idea)
But basically, more purchases if they really need the money but not making the system even more strict.
Also, ROBLOX NEEDS MORE BADGES!
YES, I know people can create their own. But other people want ROBLOX to create more so there is more to do.
Also, someone suggested more builders club options like legendary and mythical BC which gives 130 = 320 Daily ROBUX.
I also agree with this person over here:h##################################################################Now to the future forums update,
I got this from the petition made over here: credit goes to OP of that thread: https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=221342750
Also apparently, This is happening: https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=221244380
Also another thing about tickets, ROBLOX says so many stuff but really it's funny how easily they brainwashed millions of their users.
ROBLOX always needed Tickets and so do the users.
This thread is for all of the current problems with ROBLOX.
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Ok so.
Normally when I take Tickets/Tix into matter on the forums I write something that will take up to 30 minutes to read.
Sadly, there are ignorant people who only read the title despite the fact I had so many solutions. (Which I wrote)
And that's why I created this thread. To show a bit what I am speaking of (To make it a quick read) about why tickets SHOULD and HOW come back.
Read of all of this carefully
1. Developers get more money
2. Inflation? ROBLOX created inflation in the first place. If everything went back to how it was it would be massive deflation.
3. "Buy some BC / ROBUX" I can and I do, almost everyone can afford it. But some people aren't allowed/do not want to have it or do not want to spend their money.
4. ROBUX Scams would decrease. "Why?" Because there would be ways to get more ROBUX and the scams would also decrease
5. "Shutup there are bots and people who bot tickets" Ok, so, the first solution:
i: The first solution is that when a NEW person makes a new account, they HAVE to have a verified email address. (still being allowed to have multiple) Having 2 - 4 alt account donate to you sounds bad but really, you see that in businesses today. (hiring friends)
ii: The second solution is that if the verified email does not work, then you have to have a verified phon#####b#######nly being able to use that phon#####b###### # times)
6. People say how currency exchange was bad, but when you make a bring back tickets post they say "you don't know business" When businesses buy cheap and sell more.
7. ROBLOX says "confusing to first-time users" when Tix were never confusing to first time users.
8. ROBLOX says "The developer tix is a small bonus" but developers would be earning millions by now.
You can say inflation but ROBLOX created inflation, again back to how it was, massive deflation.
These reasons are undeniable but there will be some ignorant ones quoting this line and my reasons.
#BRING BACK TICKETS
I understand that it has been a year, However, that does not mean they can't come back.
There are currently 340,000,000+ ROBLOX users and that number is just getting bigger.
What's my point?
My point is that most players don't have ROBUX, but with tickets, you got 10 a day and 1 fo# ###r#####c#####it which you could convert to ROBUX, about a ratio of 13:1
ROBLOX has pretty much made a community divided by the rich, and by the poor, and most of those players are poor. A lot of people say how ROBLOX needs money and Tickets were used for botting.
What's wrong with that?
Anything could be used for botting, and ROBLOX did fine with Tickets.
In the blog "saying goodbye to tickets" ROBLOX say that "the 1 #i###e###l#####isit has become small to developers"
It has not. If you think about Nikilis, who is the creator of Murder Mystery 2, he could have accumulated over 500,000,000+ Tickets by now
With that being said, ROBLOX also mentioned in their blog, "Removing tickets isn't about greed, it's about simplifying the platform"
'Simplifying' More like making it difficult for base level players.
Also, When asked in the blog, "Is ROBLOX is financial trouble?"
The answer was "No, we are profitable and will be hiring 40+ ###elopers in 2016#####%####ported by our profits."
Also, ROBLOX wants to incentivize none buyers to buy ROBUX which is very understandable, however, many people do not like spending money on games or they are young on not allowed too.
ROBLOX even admitted how they understand that they will have less monetizing players.
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I found this which I MASSIVELY support:
I have very mixed feelings about the removal of our free currency, tix. For those of you reading this who do not know, tix was a free currency you could trade for ROBUX, an alternate way to buy other clothing, though it does take awhile to save up. You would get a daily stipend of Tix for signing in each day, and one Tix per visit your games developed over time. They removed this early of last year, in April. The ridiculous claims, although valid, do not justify the removal tix. They were running low on profit and needed people to buy more robux and Builders Club, and looked for every reason they could find to remove tix. As quoted from their blog on March 15, 2016:
“We have many things in store for the majority of ROBLOX players who do not want to become involved with the ROBUX economy. In the catalog, we intend to provide more free items, so that avatar customization without ROBUX continues to be creative and rich. Today, we have introduced two free packages for your character. Going forward, we will feature the work of top creators in the community as we migrate to a fully community driven catalog.”
They have yet to fulfill this promise of free items, and a community driven catalog, and it’s almost been a full year since Tix were removed from roblox altogether. They have yet to let promised features, such as creators publishing hats and gears, be implemented into the roblox economy. As quoted here, the promised feature was mentioned within the same blog:
“We are reducing the price floor on shirts and pants from 10 to R$5. We are reducing the price floor to ensure that creators have more freedom to sell items at lower prices, now that tickets will be removed. We will also be holding regular contests for clothing makers going forward. They will be creating the clothing for our new users and we’ll also be featuring their clothing in the catalog for all users.”
“Over time, our catalog will be largely stocked with community created items for all categories, including body parts, animations, and gear. All items in the catalog will go through a selection process where we pick the best items for sale, along with the best items that are freely available for everyone. For those items that are freely distributed, there will be fantastic rewards to the catalog developers.”
They have yet to implement ANY of this- and clothing designers do not make that much money, considering you have to have Builders Club to be able to make clothes, AND the fact that tix were removed, people have to buy ROBUX or buy builders club with real money. Although I am ALL FOR a catalog-driven by the community, as I have wanted to make hats SINCE they announced these promised features, I will have to spend real money out of my pocket, earnings and such in order to contribute the community I love so much. This goes for anyone who wants to contribute their skills to the catalog in making clothes for everyone. They even promised a few ROBUX earnings for those NBCer’s to buy some clothing for themselves- there are free clothing, but the quality of such clothing is not at the high level- at all. They are plain, generic, and demean Roblox of its goal- creativity. As stated in the blog, it is for people who do not want to be a part of the economy. So- they are just ignoring those who want to be part of it, and who want to buy clothes, hats, etc to customize their character. They completely ignore the half of the community and are dedicated to the other, which means losses in active users.
“Developers can now monetize their game with developer products, gamepasses, and the affiliate program. ROBLOX developers can cash out their ROBUX for dollars which can be spent in the real world.”
Yes, but only OBC can cash out robux for real dollars, which costs more money than they will actually earn in the long run. You are basically creating a community with two divided groups- rich and poor. The users with less money but big and great ideas will not be able to create and get rewarded efficiently, since Builders Club is required for you to be a successful creator- which means using your real money. You are building a community that is divided in half and not united together like it should be. You need ROBUX to add products and gamepasses. Which now, since TIX was removed, can only be earned through real money. You have destroyed the economy for your own self-need.
“ROBLOX is a place where many game developers get their start. We are committed to making sure new developers get their games discovered. To that end we have created a new email address – ######################## – for you to submit your up and coming games to. These submissions will be reviewed by our marketing team and submissions that meet our editorial standards could end up in the featured games sort. We’ve also identified the top ways our developers are making money in their games and provided this information to you in the Developer section of the site. Soon we’ll release more templates for budding designers to use when creating clothes and items.”
So basically you are limiting creations and imagination to the more fortunate community who can afford to be successful, and eliminating your so called “Building power and imagination” for everyone, and reverting it to only those who show promise in an actual career for the department you are encouraging? What happened to “It’s FREE!”. It is not at this point, and only the more fortunate players can be successful, otherwise you have to be an actual developer who talks with roblox to even create games that are played by everyone. Yes it’s good you created an email, for those developers to get noticed, they need money, robux and builders club. That is not how to build a successful community. It’s controlling it so only the dominant creators are at the top of roblox “fame”. Now, it’s become like the real world, where you need money to get anywhere.
“In general, anything we reward with currency will ultimately be botted.”
Well yes, but that shouldn’t stop you from giving the community some kind of currency reward for being dedicated to your platform. EVERYTHING will be botted eventually no matter what you do, so why not just say “Screw it” and give your players what they deserve? A creativity-filled platform with an online community, where you can customize your character as they so please, that goes across to any game they play instead of them only being able to go to games where you can fully customize your character. Again it’s an illegitimate excuse because the reasons you provided, are not as important as keeping your economy in check. It has fallen apart- such a good decision you have made, with reasonable excuses, no?
“Our vision is to Power the Imagination of our community, and to do it more immersively and more socially. Removing tickets is not about greed. It is about simplifying the platform, removing bots and alts, and paving the way for a ROBLOX that is bigger, more engaging, and more fun than ever before.”
A summary of your excuses to remove the only thing Non-builders club members have to be a part of the ROBLOX economy. If your vision to power the imagination of your community, don’t make the “imagination and creativity” aspect solely dependant on money for others to make even a little success in their game development.
I've said enough for today. :)
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I found this:
Okay, so I've been around Roblox for a long time, watched it evolve, seen many changes both good and bad, but after so long of seeing what happens, I've noticed one change that has basically locked off 99.9% of all cosmetic items for anyone not willing to pay real money.
Tix was one of my main motives to log in everyday, back when I didn't have a particular game or community I liked, it was also the only way I could access new clothing and items within the catalogue.
Back then you'd have things sold for 1 tix, clothing was easy to get, and things were just a lot better for customization. Considering the age group Roblox seems to be aimed at in terms of players, this was a major positive for the community.
Then the selling limit came in, minimum of 10 Robux or 100 tix to sell an item. It severely hurt my ability to customize myself, but I was fine with it, I realized maybe that the creators of said content were just not getting enough for their work.
But then came the removal of Tix. I was inactive at the time so I missed the main turn of events. Roblox promised free items and alternatives to allow continued customization for those who don't pay free money. I was willing to accept that as long as it was balanced properly.
However... after this, I have seen a massive drop in items anyone can actually get without money, almost 0 customization in comparison, which also means that groups that make uniforms with Robux cost, limit their access to those who pay. You don't even get rewarded if you make an okay place that gets a small amount of visits anymore, which was possible back when tix was a currency.
I understand it was a pro developer move, but it's basically completely demolished the ability for the free crowd to even try to save up for customization, significantly lowering the number of actual sales of items (Most parents aren't going to give their kids money for cosmetic items in a game platform), severely limiting the target audience of said items. In short, a pro developer move that was harshly anti consumer to the free crowd.
In conclusion, this has severely cut the potential audience for most of the items in Roblox, while raising the individual value of sales of these items. From a business point of view I can understand the motive for this, potentially providing more means to reward good developers of content by removing the possibility for under-priced competition; however, it is severely negative to the community as a whole as the offered alternatives are so few in number, it might as well not be there at all.
As an afterthought, I personally have not bought a single item since the removal of tix, as the removal of tix removed my sole form of currency income in Roblox. This no doubt can also attribute to the number of offers of ##### ###### I see on other sites which are almost certainly all scams. Re-introducing a currency for those who don't pay real money, or some other alternative would indirectly reduce the number of victims to these scams.
Why do people keep saying they do not want inflation, when Roblox themselves artificially brought in the inflation, to begin with, with minimum trade prices, and then eventually the removal of tix.
If things went back to the way they were, it wouldn't be inflation, it would be heavy deflation, which would be good for every player.
You literally cannot get Robux without paying money, which runs severely counter to the intended target audience given the nature of the hyperactive censorship system which cannot be turned off and still blocks some numbers for no apparent reason.
There needs to be a way for NBC to make Robux, a reintroduction of tix, or ways for people to earn Robux without spending real money that isn't so difficult almost no one can do it anyway.
It is a pro developer move, but it's also a corporate based move and highly anti consumer, totally destroying the ability for NBC to customize themselves how they want due to the extremely small number of free items.
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ipielikeJoin Date: 2014-05-09 Post Count: 747 |
WNTS
Also tix farming
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SUPPORT!!!
#BRING BACK TICKETS |
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HUGE SUPPORT FOR TICKETS!!!! |
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@ ipielike Just read the title, not the actual information.
#BRING BACK TICKETS |
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ipielikeJoin Date: 2014-05-09 Post Count: 747 |
Well, you didn't read WNTS. ;)
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lol you have no robux JK JK Before I start, Please, read all of this. It's very important:
ROBLOX, it's been almost 12##############ou've gone far.
But let me tell you on##########r multiple things actually.
Everything you've done, whether it was the removal of tickets, removal of BC, removal of having as many friends as you like, or annoying features or the future forum update.
Have you asked the community if they wanted these updates or some of them even should be classified as down###########Now, I am aware ROBLOX has done some good updates, but they've gone way too far.
F######f all, you need to add back Tickets. Let me tell you this.
Let's say you like something ok, and let's say you are 4 #e#####l###s an example.
You have something that means so much to you, but after 10################E.
No one asked you, just a warning, even though you begged for them not to take it away, and after it was gone u begged for it to come back, it would not be given back.
That's exactly what happened with Tickets.
Some of you will probably say, "what other reasons noob?" well, that won't affect me but I'm still linking this for the reasons about tickets:
https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=221143383
So now about the removal of lifetime BC.
So lifetime BC alongside 6 mo#t######were removed in August 2015.
So most will be like: "They need the money noob"
Well, you see since ROBLOX is free to play, they could add more in app purchases while keeping the system the same but adding the above things that I mentioned back in.
Like for an example a purchase where you don't pay tax when you sell something for like $30 ###o#######w
Or someone that someone I know suggested (WHICH IS NOT MY IDEA) that there should be something called "Scripter's club" which is like builders club but it's a different division of membership that can basically do other things (which is what the guy said, not my idea)
But basically, more purchases if they really need the money but not making the system even more strict.
Also, ROBLOX NEEDS MORE BADGES!
YES, I know people can create their own. But other people want ROBLOX to create more so there is more to do.
Also, someone suggested more builders club options like legendary and mythical BC which gives 130 ###2#####ly ROBUX.
I also agree with this person over here:h##################################################################Now to the future forums update,
I got this from the petition made over here: credit goes to OP of that thread: https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=221342750
Also apparently, This is happening: https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=221244380
Also another thing about tickets, ROBLOX says so many stuff but really it's funny how easily they brainwashed millions of their users.
ROBLOX always needed Tickets and so do the users.
This thread is for all of the current problems with ROBLOX. |
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^ Is that a support or no support?
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U JOINED JUNE 12 2017 SO SHUT UP |
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If someone joined after a certain removal doesn't mean they can't share the view.
That's the problem with ROBLOX today
#BRING BACK TICKETS |
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time to remove features that will only help people with a lack of basic common sense |
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Support Screw Builder Club Idiots who said Tix are for Noobs |
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WeeEejitJoin Date: 2015-06-10 Post Count: 1603 |
look at your join date. why should you care? |
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you don't even know tix, SO GET OFF THE FORUMS! |
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If someone joined after a certain removal doesn't mean they can't share the view.
That's the problem with ROBLOX today
#BRING BACK TICKETS
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nemari0Join Date: 2012-06-20 Post Count: 15 |
this is really an impressive post, I really support this.
I this is really one of the most worked post about tickets I have ever seen, you really make a good point you actually talk with proofs about why was a bad idea the removal, and yes I agree a lot with this, roblox need another kind of currency on the game to make the nbc more equal with the bc/tbc/obc, the services they bring to the Nbc is really poor, and un-equal, also the nbc creators are restricted a way to much, really you can't do ANYTHING except for the fact the you can make game pass to make gain of your games, they want you to pay to being able to be an active person in the creating community.
I mean really? you need to pay real money to being active in the catalog list?.
and yeah i'm conscious about the fact the inflation on the money exist, but why doesn't really think other ways to resolve that? i mean there's a lot of ways to stop them, and the farming too. I know alsothe fact the they are a company and they need money to keep the business but think it, they could add more features to the page and more ways to earn mney or something more simple, just try to get rid of the bot and accounts by making a security confirmation by a cellphone,and That's all! you can't linked another account with the same ######### ###### and make that you can't do transactions or change the currency to robux if you doesn't have the security confirmation on your cellphone. and there'a bunch of thing the would like to tell but I don't want to make this reply too long.
Pd:to all the persons who doesn't like this post, tell me, di you really read all? or you just look he's Join date? |
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