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ToaHeroLewa13
#36013434Monday, October 25, 2010 11:25 PM GMT

[Tl;dr is for lazy people. But since this is something everyone should read, I’ve put aside my beliefs for a short time, and actually made one this time.] [Disclaimer: The Sheep Metaphor concept is not my original idea. But all the modifications and tie-ins that I’ve made here are mine.] Ok, so I know people have seen my rants on the mods being lazy within my posts. But, sometimes, I have to look at it from their point of view. These people at Roblox do all they can. To be honest, they don’t have enough Roblox Staff at Roblox. They are businesspeople, trying to make a living, when we are just complaining and playing the blame game. I personally don’t think this is fair, after all, look at it from their perspective: They come to work, get on their computers after some idle chat, and a cup of coffee with co-workers. They get to the Roblox site, find their forum, and sit down and, well, moderate. They read the reports, ban naughty kids, and occasionally post on threads. But, when they look at some of the comments and threads, they see us, complaining about Roblox all the time. Would you like that? To come to work, just to be bashed BY KIDS? It must be extremely frustrating. So, the other day I was wondering how they even put up with this, and I asked myself this: “Why does this even happen? They’re not completely lazy; they’re just doing their job.” And I came to this conclusion: THE SHEEP METAPHOR ‘What be this mysterious conundrum?’ you may ask, ‘How does this relate to what you just said, Toa?’ Well, simply put: People are like sheep. We graze around, posting on topics that really wouldn’t affect the history of Roblox if they were implemented. But when a controversial topic comes around, the weaker, insecure sheep wait, and watch to see what happens. There could be two, three, maybe even four sides of an argument, but the future of that thread COMPLETLEY RELIES ON THOSE FIRST POSTS’. Still don’t get it? Well, here’s how one thread might go: (Note: I know this is a common thread, but I just used it as an example. Think of it as if it were being posted for the first time.) Main thread post: ‘Roblox came out with bodies for BC. As part of this website, I believe NBC should at least partake in some of this new feature.’ First thread reply: ‘No. BC paid for them, so they get them. When did you pay?’ That first post will draw others that will post the same. This in turn will cause the people who want to support that idea to either not post, or be cautious, and prepare to be flamed and ridiculed. And because people are like sheep, they play ‘Follow the Leader’. The first post is a massive impact of the latter ones. I’ve seen great ideas in threads fail, because the first post ridiculed them, or pointed out a flaw in their design, which then caused people to post the same. ‘But how does that relate at all towards your first paragraph, Toa?’ Well, my theory behind why so many people constantly complain about the mods being lazy is this: Someone made a post about the mods, because that narrow-minded person didn’t see the results they wanted, and called them lazy (an ignorant assumption, if you will). Then, the rest of the people that posted the same thing, referred to it in other posts, saying things such as: ‘The mods will never do it, they’re lazy’ or ‘Don’t you think that’s a little too much for the fat mods?’ After that, the snowball effect was implemented, and we’ve ended up here. It seems the mods don’t like us anymore. When was the last time one posted on a forum in S&I? And, can you blame them? The way they’ve been treated by us? I would have left too. All I’m asking for you to do is to rise up above the flock, and create your own will. Stand up for an idea that you want to happen. Don’t be a sheep, don’t play follow the leader. I’m also asking for some support. Show the Mods and Admins that we still like them, for if it wasn’t for them, we probably wouldn’t be here right now. Show them that we can do better. Show them we ENJOY having them on S&I. Most of all show them that we DON’T think they’re lazy. FAQ: “How is this a suggestion you noob?” -I’m SUGGESTING that we be nicer to the mods, and appreciate what they’re doing for us. “What if I don’t want to be nice to the mods?” -You should at least direct your anger issues towards something else. Like Paper Mache. “What if I don’t like paper mache?” -Then you hate piñatas, and therefore deserve to be thrown into a pit. “What if I don’t like sheep?” -Tell that to Scotland. But only if you’re capable of running from an angry mob. [TL;DR – If you are just reading this section of my post, then I know you’re lazy. But whatever, show the mods you’re support, maybe even apologize to them for the way you acted. SHOW THEM WE DON’T THINK THEY’RE LAZY! Like you, for example :P] [Quick side note: If you ever hear me say ‘Baaa!’ to someone, this is what I’m referring too. Feel free to use it in a post where you think it’s appropriate. I’ll also be using it in my new V siggy V :3] ~ Baaa. Rise up above the flock. ~ ©ToaHeroLewa13 – October 2010
Kitten
#36013784Monday, October 25, 2010 11:30 PM GMT

Actually, I agree. People are ridiculously unfair on the moderators, and I too have seen many ideas that have the potential to work fall, because of the sheep...thing. :)
ToaHeroLewa13
#36013921Monday, October 25, 2010 11:32 PM GMT

Yep. I was going to post something now, but something interupted my train of thought D: Thanks for supporting :P
ConnerSyxtofre
#36015624Monday, October 25, 2010 11:55 PM GMT

@“How is this a suggestion you noob?” -I’m SUGGESTING that we be nicer to the mods, and appreciate what they’re doing for us. “What if I don’t want to be nice to the mods?” -You should at least direct your anger issues towards something else. Like Paper Mache. “What if I don’t like paper mache?” -Then you hate , and therefore deserve to be thrown into a pit. “What if I don’t like sheep?” -Tell that to Scotland. But only if you’re capable of running from an angry mob. oh this made me laugh, and I'm scottish, yes, whoever doesnt like piñatas should be thrown into a pit, a deep one, with Crocogaters and Dragorgons at the bottom but back on the point, The Friendly 3-year Veteran supports!
carstorm
#36016649Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:08 AM GMT

support. I believe that I may have had ideas that failed due to the "sheep" trend
Thenoob2899
#36018321Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:32 AM GMT

OOPS, I pushed this post upwards >.>
ToaHeroLewa13
#36024227Tuesday, October 26, 2010 1:54 AM GMT

@conner Well I had to insert some sort of joke :P I love Scottish people :D @others Thanks for the support. BUMP!
crazypotato4
#36024690Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:01 AM GMT

Nice post. I completely agree, it's kind of a subconcious thing, just from being exposed to the posts on this forum, you soak in the opinions of the people who have posted, and you start to get those opinions stuck in your head. Or your wool. Baaa. Now that you've posted this, I realise that we are all too mean to the mods. They're just trying to do their job, but we're too immature and lazy to blame ourselves for stuff that's our faults, and we blame them whenever we don't like something on this site. I support your idea. (p.s. nice FAQ :D)
ToaHeroLewa13
#36024861Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:04 AM GMT

Thanks :P
ToaHeroLewa13
#36025616Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:18 AM GMT

Bump.
ToaHeroLewa13
#36026203Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:28 AM GMT

Bump. I suppose some people have lost the ability to read word walls.
leafdragon
#36026834Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:41 AM GMT

Yea, It is true. Even though they should be cracking down on Exploting. Also, My family comes from the Picts, A Scottish Clan in the north :)
fghik
#36027131Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:47 AM GMT

I always wanted a sheep... But they are not NEARLY as cool as I thought they were when I was 6... They are just loud annoying smelly fluffy animals. XD I love what the mods do. And I'm sure there doing 'something'. I just don't know what it is yet. I am hoping this 'something' will be ready by next year. Or I'm going to find someway to call ROBLOX sheep XD (¯`'•.¸THE 20's SHALL LIVE AGAIN¸.• '´¯) http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=34895696 ₪₪₪☆GET BRAIN☆ OR ☠GET OFF☠₪₪₪
ROB1000
#36027167Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:48 AM GMT

I think you used to many big words...thereofre made my brain explode, thanks. Anways i support you because i support anything...and that those big words are true :D
ToaHeroLewa13
#36027259Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:50 AM GMT

@leaf Yep. @fghik xD @Rob I do that to a lot of people :P
Brick_man
#36028483Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:19 AM GMT

I support... But BIG WORDS... O_O
carstorm
#36033523Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:41 AM GMT

I found a good place to reference this forum. If you read I was he first person to support and I put this post's link. So far no one trolled me. http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=36024807#36026192
ToaHeroLewa13
#36037270Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:22 PM GMT

Bump of sheep. And apparently big words.
ToaHeroLewa13
#36037483Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:33 PM GMT

Bump...
deltav
#36039577Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:27 PM GMT

Luckily, the wool makes sure we dont get injured while bumping. I agree. There are too many people calling FIX THIS! FIX THAT! WHY WONT YOU FIX THE LAGG IN ROBLOX! and stuff like that. Not nice. Not encouraging. And i dont think the people will stop nagging once it is fixed, because then other people arrive with the same or other problems. Maybe the mods will be more motivated is people say please, and dont sound like a nightmarish group of managers that are about to fire you if you wont fix the freaking problem. It is because of them that we can post in this thread, in other threads, in the whole forum, that we can play the games on the site, that the site exists. Lets give the roblox staff a Thank You instead of a Fix It. Be happy with what there is, and if you cant cope with that, take a stroll on the ceiling of your living room. People who do that realize how stupid it is to take strolls on ceilings because you cant stroll on them, and will fall down. And then they shall stop nagging. Almost forgot. Thank you, staff of Roblox, for making sure we can have fun online with others, meet friends, make friends, post on this and other threads, and punishing those who walk on ceilings, which isnt possible.
ToaHeroLewa13
#36039766Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:38 PM GMT

@deltav xD Exactly, they're the reason we're here. We shouldn't treat them like dirt.
trappingnoobs
#36040027Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:50 PM GMT

True.
ToaHeroLewa13
#36040054Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:51 PM GMT

Ok, I'll take that as support :P
gellick
#36040743Tuesday, October 26, 2010 5:24 PM GMT

i probly disaqere it was to long for me to read.yea iim just that lazy
gellick
#36040776Tuesday, October 26, 2010 5:26 PM GMT

oh i get the point i agree now nvm my last comment. and we shouldnt treat em like dirt but we shouldnt treat em like gods or something just treat em like normal robloxicans

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