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tatoberry
#47895987Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:53 PM GMT

so i can't say "your band sucks" without you guys insulting me, but straf can come in here and poop all over the beatles without you guys lifting an eyebrow?
straf
#47896477Wednesday, June 01, 2011 4:06 PM GMT

I've had all kinds of crap for it.
tatoberry
#47896559Wednesday, June 01, 2011 4:08 PM GMT

it's really MT regulars i'm going after
lobstery7
#47905281Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:50 PM GMT

Thats because the MT reguars either don't like the Beatles, don't care about them, or don't listen to them. And theres the fact that Straf doesn't troll, and he only goes in on the Beatles threads, instead of going onto the threads of pretty much every single MTer, saying "This band sucks" or "overrated".
straf
#47906384Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:08 PM GMT

I do that to. I haven't very recently, though.
AnorexicPig
#47906490Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:09 PM GMT

Straf = tatoberry Straf might be tatoberry's alt. Trust me, I am not in on these double standards.
straf
#47906646Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:12 PM GMT

Thing is, when I criticize something, I always have a good reason to. I'm not a blind fan-boy, and I'm not a holy fool. Tato does the same as me, yes, and can also justify his reasoning just as I, but he's nothing like me taste-wise, if I recall correctly.
tatoberry
#47906701Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:13 PM GMT

@lobstrey he's made threads about why the beatles suck i think he wrote an essay about it p.s. this thread is not trying to damage the reputation of straf @anorexicpig we are not an alt
lobstery7
#47908222Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:33 PM GMT

Yes, but no every single time he comes on MT saying everyone elses music is terrible, and that his opinion matters more then others.
lobstery7
#189874021Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:49 AM GMT

lol look at my cringe forming circa 2011 Lobstery, God of Infinite Wisdom and Cruelty, King of the Pop Fans
Deshoras
#189876998Saturday, May 28, 2016 5:59 AM GMT

For a second I thought Tato was un-perma'd and came back from the pits of hell.
PasteIColours
#189881416Saturday, May 28, 2016 9:07 AM GMT

i didn't recognise the OP and other guy, but then i saw this thread was from 2001.
lobstery7
#189934976Saturday, May 28, 2016 11:12 PM GMT

i miss taro tbh he was funny af Lobstery, God of Infinite Wisdom and Cruelty, King of the Pop Fans
ducky980
#189935161Saturday, May 28, 2016 11:14 PM GMT

Im still pretty sure straf was tato
lobstery7
#189935804Saturday, May 28, 2016 11:24 PM GMT

I'm not sure. I could believe either one to be true, but I like to hope in my heart they were two different people. Also people used to think we were the same so maybe there's hope. Lobstery, God of Infinite Wisdom and Cruelty, King of the Pop Fans
ducky980
#189935890Saturday, May 28, 2016 11:26 PM GMT

I guess when you think about it people thought I was straf, tato, ayb, john, and you so I guess that isnt saying much
lobstery7
#189935986Saturday, May 28, 2016 11:27 PM GMT

Yeah for a while you were assumed an alt. I just specifically remember people calling me out for being you a lot. Lobstery, God of Infinite Wisdom and Cruelty, King of the Pop Fans
ducky980
#189936046Saturday, May 28, 2016 11:28 PM GMT

whn al u do iz trol lik dis is hrd 2 nt b
lobstery7
#189938226Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:00 AM GMT

the glory dayz, ey?
omahgosh345
#189941401Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:44 AM GMT

The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved. In a sense, the Beatles are emblematic of the status of rock criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to commercial phenomena (be it grunge or U2) and too little to the merits of real musicians. If somebody composes the most divine music but no major label picks him up and sells him around the world, a lot of rock critics will ignore him. If a major label picks up a musician who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her or him worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her or him. This is the sad status of rock criticism: rock critics are basically publicists working for major labels, distributors and record stores. They simply highlight what product the music business wants to make money from.
ducky980
#189941519Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:46 AM GMT

^ but theyre bad
Vexull
#189953333Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:26 AM GMT

Ducky=lobstery=tato=straf
Yadoking
#189954098Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:38 AM GMT

sangy=Ducky=lobstery=tato=straf
Loyal2One
#189955271Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:58 AM GMT

kist=sangy=Ducky=lobstery=tato=straf
Yadoking
#189955349Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:59 AM GMT

sirdetective=kist=sangy=Ducky=lobstery=tato=straf

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