EpicTwistJoin Date: 2010-11-03
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The wars we participate in today are certainly not working out as planned, e.g.
-Admin commands
-Usual advantages to defending clan
-No offical victory or defeat claimed properly
-Lack of warzone organization
etc
Surely you know the rest...
If we do have a war on the grasp of our hands, the huge chance being is a flare of 'flame' and unfairness to both teams. On the other hand, if you were playing an actual built-in action/war game then of course armies from each team would have a fair advantage and system organized battle - unlike on ROBLOX. ROBLOX is a constructive-social game therefore the warzones and general battle rules are produced by the community (we all know the basic rules; no admin abuse, no teamkilling, no breaking ROBLOX rules and the rules set out by each clan individually like the example, no empty server raiding, no uniform raiding etc) and the place builders, who of course are just the place owners who design how they want their fortress/warzone to be layed out, and what advantage their clan has. That is why ROBLOX war suddenly emerged, but not by ROBLOX administrators, but by the people who brought together ROBLOX as a group fighting game (as a admin and I doubt they know a single clan war rule) - but wouldn't it be better if ROBLOX had a warzone system already planned out for us?
...Yes, it would! Thus is why I have gathered up a few suggestions that have been lurking in and out of my head (sooner or later they'll have to be embeded onto a thread). As we all know, ROBLOX is begining to become more and more focused on clan war as the popularity expands, withdrawing many updates like declaration settings of alliance and war for an example, which obviously isn't enough.
Considering war on ROBLOX isn't as all fitting in, ROBLOX terminating the approach of clan war would be a unwise move. That is why I thought 'why not improve it?' (As ROBLOX clan war isn't always as fun and exciting. For an atempt to clear up the on-going taunting between clans would be to pump moderation back into C&G.)
So don't be harsh on the so called 'mini-mods' and have your finger wagging at the trolls!
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Here are a few of my ideas:
-An offical warzone place set between two groups at war that can be played in on both groups from the enemy list (click on the enemy in the group enemy list and then click 'enter battlezone' - for an example. Group members alerted when a battle is called by a certain rank e.g leader)
-Sack the unpopular building place sitting around in our groups for nothing and instead replace it with a active HQ where you are notified if someone enters.
-A place can be declared a place of the clan so that if a player enters it then the group is notified by a somewhat group activity stat that is system controled like shout outs. (Like when you earn a badge, ROBLOX calls it out in-game, but instead, on your personal feed wall)
-More organization between teams, group members spawn on spot A and the enemy members spawn on spot B aswell as a notification that pops up telling you that you will spawn there for being in that certain group. If in multiple groups there then you have the option. (Like the team spawns scripters scripted but make it more GUI friendly.)
-Toggle clan and group on and off in your group settings. Clans unlock different group options aswell as groups can unlock more social options as a clan would with war options.
-If both clans agree to war with each other, then a score board of most winned battles (most KOs on battlefield before time ends) will be present aswell as a declaration of victory for most winned battles that should appear like this:
ExampleClan's battle wins (2)
ExampleClan's battle loses (3)
ExamleClan's wars won (1)
ExampleClan's wars lost (2)
ExampleClan is winning the war against ExampleClan.
First to 5 battles won wins the war.
-As I have told you, most of us keep the record of victories and defeats in our description, but it would be nice if ROBLOX had a record of defeats and victories within wars with other clans.
-Sell groups/bid.
-Alliance (mother group) of a network of clans, shown in group description, stats or something like that... (good idea for clan empires, which I actually hate unless you have the ability to manage the lot of them - which I doubt)
(All of these can be toggled on and off, for example;
the team spawn in a group place, toggled by either group or
place settings etc)
These are just a few of my supportive ideas that you may find towards your intrest. I know that some of you may see this to seem rather odd but, I shall inform you with updates and more suggestions when my brain clicks back on.
Not to brag but I've not been on ROBLOX for weeks - I seriously need an update :)
Give the player scripters a break, and get scripting yourself ROBLOX :D We'll keep your belly full on ideas, aslong as you make them true!
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PLEASE RESPECT BECAUSE I SPENT ALOT OF TIME DOING THIS. I WANT TO HELP, NOT DIMMER THE FUN IN ROBLOX WAR BUT IMPROVE IT.
SUPPORT THIS IF YOU AGREE OR HAVE A SUGGESTION TO POST, THANK YOU. :)
Yours Sincerly,
~EpicTwist~
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EpicTwistJoin Date: 2010-11-03
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rook62391Join Date: 2009-11-17
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Did you realy type all that? |
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No. I'm tired of war groups and things getting all the updates.
No one cares about your tiny little kids war on the computer. |
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Ilike the idea but JUST HOW DID YOU TYPE THAT?! |
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@Migle9000r
I've typed about that much before. A little more, or maybe the same. |
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EpicTwistJoin Date: 2010-11-03
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This isn't much to type... I guess you guys in this here forum don't type as much, eh?
@Pizza:
That's okay, It's your opinion and your disagreement towards clans - but there is no need to be insultive. |
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EpicTwistJoin Date: 2010-11-03
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Bump |
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hubajubaJoin Date: 2010-04-17
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I support. If a single TL;DR noob comes here I'll co crazy. Honestly I'm sick of those guys. |
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LexareJoin Date: 2010-12-21
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Pizza, roblox was meant for 2 things: Building, and war. Social fr00bs like you annoy me. Roblox makes too many social updates and not enough building/clan updates. @Hub, nice ideas. |
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doneyesJoin Date: 2008-03-21
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It would also be cool if the places roblox make for this can hold up to 60 players. 30 per team. |
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@Lexare
You do know I have never support any social updates. I build more than anything in this game. Get your freaken' facts right before you go and flame a guy for not wanting war updates.
We already have 2 real life wars, and these little kids want millions of internet wars. |
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EpicTwistJoin Date: 2010-11-03
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No one here is flaming you for not liking these war updates. You are infact flaming me for supporting them and suggesting some clan updates. I respect your disagreement to this thread. |
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Heres an even BETTER idea. Why don't you just end that type of thing on ROBLOX. It just causes rage quits, causes people to get unnecessart WOs and quite frankly, in my opinion, isn't all that fun either. |
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Agreed with pizza. War is all around. Why would you want more of it. No, I am not a social noob, in fact I hate RPing. I skate and build. War games just bring a bad name to ROBLOX. Why would anyone want that to happen I ask you. Why? |
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LexareJoin Date: 2010-12-21
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Your not going to get your way anyways. At least a third, if not more people (Including me), spend most of their time on roblox doing clan/war related things. I respect people who love building on roblox, clans, but not social noobs. I also dont respect trolololers and flamers (Pizza *Cough cough*). Roblox isnt going to drop Clans and war, most people who are involved with clans and war are the intelligent ones anyways. |
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I think clan wars is user-made, so only the users can improve it. |
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Some of these are actually easily scriptable - and a clan wars game can be made easily as well.
The challenge here would be notifying the members by group shout, and "reserving" the place for two or more groups to fight in.
Even more difficult would be a "technology" system. Many groups develop their own weapons and auto turrets, build their own vehicles and so on, but have no way of bringing them to the battlefield when they're attacking an enemy base. To make things even worse, the defending team usually has the better weapons, and high-ranking officials in the group do often have admin commands to ban any hostile forces from the game (I think you briefly mentioned this).
To make things more fair, you'd have to give groups a way to bring their own tools to the game. The easiest way to do this would be to simply add an insert tool to the game. However, this brings a great risk: the attacking group could then simply add admin commands to the game and ban the defending team from the game and claim victory. Adding a filter to the tool is possible, but not in any way easy. I've made an insert tool with a built-in filter to keep out orbs, eyeballs and nukes, along with a few other items - but some variations of these models still manage to get past the filter, and unless you put someone in charge of checking every incoming item and judge whether or not it can be used, there will always be things that get past this filter.
What I propose is a section in every group called "technologies", which can contain up to 5 items. These items can be added without moderation of any kind, but users would have the ability to report an item for "unfair tech"[1], which would then cause the item to be reviewed by a moderator. If the item is found to be unfair, it would be removed from the group technology section. Groups that are repeatedly found to have unfair tech will have the owner warned first, and if they keep it up, the group will be removed and the owner banned.
How do we know if the group is attacking another group? Good question! A place can be marked as a "Group place", and it can be set which group it belongs to[2]. Any place that is marked as a "group place" will allow all groups to bring the tech they have, just like gear. To make sure no one brings 500 items to a game (OBC can join up to 100 groups), the player must select which group he is entering the place for, therefore allowing a maximum of 5 items.
Note 1: "Unfair tech" would be anything that requires no skill and causes massive damage. An example of this would be any sort of chat command, kill-all weapons (Weapons where it kills everyone in the place and gives you the KOs), teleport tools, nukes (Definite no-no there). Allowed is melee and ranged weapons, if they are able to miss a target (No auto-aim!). Also unfair would be items that don't kill a player, but remove all limbs of a player, making them unable to fight back. THINGS LIKE HIGH-VOLTAGE WEAPONS WHERE THE SPARK JUMPS TO ANOTHER PLAYER IN A RADIUS OF 10 STUDS IS NOT UNFAIR TECH! ITEMS THAT HEAL TEAM MEMBERS ARE NOT UNFAIR TECH! ITEMS THAT CAN SHOOT THROUGH BRICKS AND BLAST HOLES INTO BRICKS ARE NOT UNFAIR TECH!
Note 2: A place owner must be in the group that the owner is assigning the place to. There should also be an option where specific ranks can remove added places from the group, and there should be an option to set whether the group accepts any place or the place has to be checked first (Just like join / request to join).
What do you think? Yay or nay? |
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EpicTwistJoin Date: 2010-11-03
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Nay. Some technology is greater than others - plus gives them an advantage. They'd possibly add overpowered machine guns or stuff like that. :/
That risk is HUGE. My clan uses swords, and swords only. I no longer own a clan... |
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EpicTwistJoin Date: 2010-11-03
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BUMP |
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rook62391Join Date: 2009-11-17
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who has the time to type all that!!!!! |
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mickyy5Join Date: 2010-02-20
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Get back on C&G boi. |
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30 on 30 would be great! but, with mega places it would be 15 on 15! That's still good. So mega place wars??? |
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