VidaFrezz
#49932575Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:37 AM GMT

@everything above, -Assumption. If you have no proof they earn 5 mil through BCs, BCs are only min of $5 (Which most people will buy) Moreover,some of the BC benefits still stay when the BC expires, Therefore, More people will only buy normal BC as well as a month. Therefore, Your reason isn't legit. "I love how you think I'm whining, when you know I'm disproving your ridiculous reasons." Disproving? I don't see how you're disproving other then assuming as well as repeating the same reasons over and over again. Dude. The flaw is already clearly stated.
thegroundbeforeyou
#49932864Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:54 AM GMT

If you have no proof they earn 5 mil through BCs, BCs are only min of $5 (Which most people will buy) Moreover,some of the BC benefits still stay when the BC expires, Therefore, More people will only buy normal BC as well as a month. -Assumption Therefore, Your reason isn't legit. And now they have a BC card that costs 10 bucks to buy 1 MONTH of builders club? The only BC benefit that stays are ROBUX and BC items. Most people want to buy more BC so they can accumulate more and get better stuff. Saying assumption isn't disproving anything, most things are based on estimates. Your just an idiot.
VidaFrezz
#49932977Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:02 AM GMT

"The only BC benefit that stays are ROBUX and BC items." False. Multiple places as well as groups still stays. "Most people want to buy more BC so they can accumulate more and get better stuff." Isn't this obvious? If they doesn't want to get better stuffs, Why would they bother join BC? "Saying assumption isn't disproving anything, most things are based on estimates." Assumption = Personal opinions. Personal opinions is much weaker then facts. "Your just an idiot." Reported for PA. Anyway, About how much Roblox have currently is just a minor flaw. You haven't really answered to the 6 major reasons. Guests can do what players can also do, Guests have equal rights then kids, Guests will most likely be parents (SOLID ASSUMPTION), Guests can see CLOTHINGS. Guests can see GEARS. Guests are used for people to test out Roblox,
thegroundbeforeyou
#49933129Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:12 AM GMT

Anyway, About how much Roblox have currently is just a minor flaw. You haven't really answered to the 6 major reasons. Guests can do what players can also do, Guests have equal rights then kids, Guests will most likely be parents (SOLID ASSUMPTION), Guests can see CLOTHINGS. Guests can see GEARS. Guests are used for people to test out Roblox, I'm going bottom up. Guests are used for people to test out ROBLOX, but really, you can't tell if the games good if you can't really interact with people. Yeah I know they can talk, but its so easy to mess up and look for stuff. Guests can see gears and clothes because Guests would think everyone would look plain and boring. Guests would not be parents, cause they couldn't see what the people are saying around there children. Guests DON'T have equal rights, "kid" accounts can do so much more, make games, buy BC, send FR's, and join groups. Guests can do what players can do, but players after a while will find out that being a jerk to others is wrong, and most people will tell them not to do it. I answered your questions that I answered many times before. Oh and you reported me? What are you, 8? Can't take a little verbal punishment? You will NEVER make it in the real world.
VidaFrezz
#49933266Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:22 AM GMT

@thegroundbeforeyou, "Guests can see gears and clothes because Guests would think everyone would look plain and boring." Wait. Did you just help me reply to your suggestion? Good. That just proves that you get the point. "Guests are used for people to test out ROBLOX, but really, you can't tell if the games good if you can't really interact with people. Yeah I know they can talk, but its so easy to mess up and look for stuff." And what you said that you're suggesting was for all guests to chat. That alone, Is already not a good idea. Due to the fact that some guests are trolls. "Guests would not be parents, cause they couldn't see what the people are saying around there children." As I said, Roblox is meant for kids. Therefore, Meaning that everything must be kid-friendly. Since Roblox is for 5 - 10+ years of age. That age is when mostly people will be controlled by their parents. Thats why the guest system is created. To have kids/parents try out Roblox. "Guests DON'T have equal rights, "kid" accounts can do so much more, make games, buy BC, send FR's, and join groups. Guests can do what players can do, but players after a while will find out that being a jerk to others is wrong, and most people will tell them not to do it." As I said, Kid accounts can't see chats. Therefore, How will they know if someone is calling them a jerk? Yes,those things you mentioned are beneficial among kid accounts to guest accounts. However, They are external materials. Not in-game. "I answered your questions that I answered many times before." And I said my reasons many times before. The flaw still stays no matter how you put it. "Oh and you reported me? What are you, 8? Can't take a little verbal punishment? You will NEVER make it in the real world." -Irrelevant. In the real world, I could sue you for slander.
thegroundbeforeyou
#49933277Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:22 AM GMT

Thats why ROBLOX removes your places after a while. "Assumption = Personal opinions. Personal opinions is much weaker then facts." Thats why most of your "ideas" is based on assumptions. "Isn't this obvious? If they doesn't want to get better stuffs, Why would they bother join BC?" They would join BC multiple times. Half of the people on ROBLOX have BC, and there are way more then 2,000,000 people on ROBLOX. Maybe even way more. And there are different versions. Regular BC: $5.95 Walmart BC: $10.00 TBC: 11.95 OBC: 19.95 Half of the people have BC, the rest are a mixture of TBC and OBC. Oh and "Why would they bother join BC?" Nice grammatical errors fool.
VidaFrezz
#49933330Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:26 AM GMT

"Thats why most of your "ideas" is based on assumptions." That isn't an idea. That are solid flaws. Get that right. "They would join BC multiple times. Half of the people on ROBLOX have BC, and there are way more then 2,000,000 people on ROBLOX. Maybe even way more. And there are different versions." And there are millions of people who quitted Roblox. You rarely see newbies nowadays. Except for guests. "Regular BC: $5.95 Walmart BC: $10.00 TBC: 11.95 OBC: 19.95 Half of the people have BC, the rest are a mixture of TBC and OBC." Around 70% NBCs,30% BCs. If you compare assumptions. "Oh and "Why would they bother join BC?" Nice grammatical errors fool."" -Irrelevant.
thegroundbeforeyou
#49933473Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:35 AM GMT

"In the real world, I could sue you for slander." Yes you could, but the judge would just think your psycho and kick you out of the court. Most of the judges are hard on people and going up to him whining about how this meanie head called you an idiot. Thats like calling the cops because I said that your a poo face. "And what you said that you're suggesting was for all guests to chat. That alone, Is already not a good idea. Due to the fact that some guests are trolls." Yeah, they can chat in there own server smart one. "As I said, Roblox is meant for kids. Therefore, Meaning that everything must be kid-friendly. Since Roblox is for 5 - 10+ years of age. That age is when mostly people will be controlled by their parents. Thats why the guest system is created. To have kids/parents try out Roblox." My lord, are you serious? NOTHING in ROBLOX is kid friendly. You look through the forums, all there are is flaming and nonsense. You go into games, its people making body parts out of bricks (YOU know which) they have people by-passing the filter using alt 0137 and making account names like "My***iswhite" and "Meh****istoobigforyou." There are games with blood and rag-doll bodies with intestines hanging out and people shooting each other. I remember being on the gametest site and there was an adult name with an adult title with an adult username. Roblox should have an esrb of 13+ now a days. Kids are quiting or growing up, and parents barely watch kids play ROBLOX anymore. I mean I was freaking 11 when I joined ROBLOX, and there were people making inappropriate jokes and I remember walking into a roleplay and I read the stories of a women zipping down a zipper with her teeth. Mods don't ban people, there filter is so terrible people can cuss and just easily bypass it. "As I said, Kid accounts can't see chats. Therefore, How will they know if someone is calling them a jerk? Yes,those things you mentioned are beneficial among kid accounts to guest accounts. However, They are external materials. Not in-game." Kids can't see chats. But I have seen people make dirty sentences in the chats. Apparently the words Romantic, At Night, and You Are can make some nasty stuff.
VidaFrezz
#49933548Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:41 AM GMT

"Yes you could, but the judge would just think your psycho and kick you out of the court. Most of the judges are hard on people and going up to him whining about how this meanie head called you an idiot. Thats like calling the cops because I said that your a poo face." Seems like you don't know anything about the real world. Anyway, -Irrelevant. Lets get back to the topic. "Yeah, they can chat in there own server smart one." As I said, That alone already isn't a good thing. Why? Because REAL guests will be affected by it greatly. People can bypass the filter and cuss, Whereas parents wouldn't want their kid to join, And also kids to be affected by vulgarities. "My lord, are you serious? NOTHING in ROBLOX is kid friendly. You look through the forums, all there are is flaming and nonsense. You go into games, its people making body parts out of bricks (YOU know which) they have people by-passing the filter using alt 0137 and making account names like "My***iswhite" and "Meh****istoobigforyou." There are games with blood and rag-doll bodies with intestines hanging out and people shooting each other. I remember being on the gametest site and there was an adult name with an adult title with an adult username. Roblox should have an esrb of 13+ now a days. Kids are quiting or growing up, and parents barely watch kids play ROBLOX anymore. I mean I was freaking 11 when I joined ROBLOX, and there were people making inappropriate jokes and I remember walking into a roleplay and I read the stories of a women zipping down a zipper with her teeth. Mods don't ban people, there filter is so terrible people can cuss and just easily bypass it." The community's problem. Not the mod's. "Kids can't see chats. But I have seen people make dirty sentences in the chats." But kids can't see chats, So whats the point? "Apparently the words Romantic, At Night, and You Are can make some nasty stuff" Those isn't in the menu chats.
Espithel
#49933578Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:44 AM GMT

vida has just owned this entire thread and all counters to him. signed, frozengaia. anyway, i'm a kid. i can see menu chats. the problem of the debate here is the fact that ground's points are based almost entirely on assumptions. 'My lord, are you serious? NOTHING in ROBLOX is kid friendly. You look through the forums, all there are is flaming and nonsense. You go into games, its people making body parts out of bricks (YOU know which) they have people by-passing the filter using alt 0137 and making account names like "My***iswhite" and "Meh****istoobigforyou." There are games with blood and rag-doll bodies with intestines hanging out and people shooting each other. I remember being on the gametest site and there was an adult name with an adult title with an adult username. Roblox should have an esrb of 13+ now a days. Kids are quiting or growing up, and parents barely watch kids play ROBLOX anymore. I mean I was freaking 11 when I joined ROBLOX, and there were people making inappropriate jokes and I remember walking into a roleplay and I read the stories of a women zipping down a zipper with her teeth. Mods don't ban people, there filter is so terrible people can cuss and just easily bypass it.' that's ENTIRELY the players fault, not roblox's. roblox is kid friendly. the people aren't.
Espithel
#49933587Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:45 AM GMT

HEY. why did a fourm paradox happen? >:O. oh well. late post for the loss.
thegroundbeforeyou
#49933592Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:45 AM GMT

"Apparently the words Romantic, At Night, and You Are can make some nasty stuff" Those isn't in the menu chats." OH YES THEY ARE. Answers: Time... At Night Answers: You are... Answers: Movie/TV... Romantic. Its not the chat either, its the safe chat bubbles. Don't believe me? Check it yourself.
thegroundbeforeyou
#49933638Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:49 AM GMT

If the community is bad, that means the game is bad. The kids who are oh so precious are completely unharmed by the pictures of blood and a man with his intestines hanging out on the game. Guests are witnessing that too and if Mods don't crack down soon kids are gonna leave. The community is making people leave, not the game itself.
VidaFrezz
#49933666Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:51 AM GMT

"OH YES THEY ARE. Answers: Time... At Night Answers: You are... Answers: Movie/TV... Romantic. Its not the chat either, its the safe chat bubbles. Don't believe me? Check it yourself." Yes. You got me wrong. But what does that prove? Adding your suggestion would only make it worse.
thegroundbeforeyou
#49933672Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:51 AM GMT

I love how this went to the community and not the idea itself. You gaia, are an imbecile because I barely believe you read the original post, your commenting on Vida's view of the community and about how ROBLOX is so poor that they can't afford atleast 40 extra servers. You guys truly make me sick.
VidaFrezz
#49933679Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:51 AM GMT

"If the community is bad, that means the game is bad. The kids who are oh so precious are completely unharmed by the pictures of blood and a man with his intestines hanging out on the game. Guests are witnessing that too and if Mods don't crack down soon kids are gonna leave. The community is making people leave, not the game itself." There is something called, "Report".
VidaFrezz
#49933712Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:54 AM GMT

"I love how this went to the community and not the idea itself." You're the one who brought it to the community. Not us. We're just defending our points and at the same time,attacking your points, So where it goes is all in you. If you want to end it, You can end it. If you want to continue, You can continue. If you want to ignore us, Ignore us. Its your suggestion after all. "You gaia, are an imbecile because I barely believe you read the original post, your commenting on Vida's view of the community and about how ROBLOX is so poor that they can't afford atleast 40 extra servers." My view of the community? If you had read properly, Its clearly YOURS. Because I had said that your reason isn't valid because it concerns to the community. "You guys truly make me sick." -Irrelevant.
thegroundbeforeyou
#49933719Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:54 AM GMT

And people remake the games. Reporting just keeps inappropriate things at bay, not gone forever. MSE6's forum rules in OT lasted for a DAY. Then it went back to hacked names, cursing, nasty stuff and the almighty creepypasta's and bonus's.
VidaFrezz
#49933750Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:57 AM GMT

"Reporting just keeps inappropriate things at bay, not gone forever." As long as somebody does something/says something inappropriate, They'll receive a warning,or just an immediate perma ban. "MSE6's forum rules in OT lasted for a DAY. Then it went back to hacked names, cursing, nasty stuff and the almighty creepypasta's and bonus's." *Cough*"Forum"*Cough*
thegroundbeforeyou
#49933756Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:57 AM GMT

I'm done, you think that everyone in the community are little angels. I'm going to revise this idea. And I'll make it better.
VidaFrezz
#49933786Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:01 AM GMT

"I'm done, you think that everyone in the community are little angels." I didn't say that. I just meant that the community can't be controlled. "I'm going to revise this idea. And I'll make it better" Good luck. "I'm done" Had fun.
npo43
#50052144Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:49 AM GMT

@vir hello OMG R U TRYING 2 HELP GUESTS SHAME ON U
Brynnsandwich1
#50052423Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:53 AM GMT

Hmm...don't really know. ROBLOX is already complicated with BC servers and such...
TheBenSquare
#50052825Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:59 AM GMT

we can always safechat to help them. And actually some Guest are helpful. I was at a building place and he helped me and my friend Build a castle. =D He knew what we were doing. He helped me put bricks in place. and when I was making a man, I didnt know there was heads so I used a brick as head, and then He/she went to get one for me. Some Guest are very nice so isolation is not needed. No Support. -Kinda Guest Friendly Person, spookyBen
kitfisto34512
#50052953Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:00 AM GMT

The guest feature is meant to let them see real Robloxians. So no, sorry.