bombpawJoin Date: 2009-03-15
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SorcusForum ModeratorJoin Date: 2010-11-29
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I find that thread to be pointless. Because you are claiming that its making everyone mad when
a) you have no idea about the statistics involved
b) you got no experience to compare games nor judge the worth of something
What you can claim is that, "I expect this to be the case", rather than "This should be the case"
The latter makes no sense, while the former does.
Cheers
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"a) you have no idea about the statistics involved"
1. I accidentally pressed the "Search Google for..." button on my browser's right-click menu instead of Copy, and the first result I saw... Q_Q
2. Statistics involved: Rate of hats being created: ~2 per day(average). Rate of actual game updates (including minor glitch fixes): ~1 per month (average, within the time I've been on ROBLOX on any account). Time it takes to create a hat: Several hours for a GOOD hat. Time it takes to fix a small bug: A few hours. Time for a real update: est. ~50 hours of work. By that logic, you really don't even need 1 hat maker, you can just have someone else do two things *looks at Sorcus, the gear maker* and have those two things be released less frequently, and spend moar monehz on paying _good_ 3d game programmers to make your game better, which is a better way to gain income in the long run than releasing hats every day.
"b) you got no experience to compare games nor judge the worth of something"
So you have to have proper qualifications to say whether or not something is good?
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SorcusForum ModeratorJoin Date: 2010-11-29
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Massive wall of text, which doesn't tell anything. Congratulations, you have found the art of arguing without any validity on your side. But, not enough.
You have to have the proper qualifications to judge things for *others*. Which is what bombpaw is doing. "Hey guys, I am Joe Nobody, in an Alt, but I know more than all of you" Yeah? No.
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bombpawJoin Date: 2009-03-15
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._. Am I getting trolled by an admin? |
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bombpawJoin Date: 2009-03-15
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It also makes more sense than most of the stuff out there on S&I.... |
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SorcusForum ModeratorJoin Date: 2010-11-29
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How am I trolling? I gave you a legitimate answer.
Anyways, I will be moving this topic to the appropriate forum in a while.
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Sorcus, it must be 11 o'clock for you, what are you doing on so late ? |
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"without any validity on your side"
I am not provided with any evidence, so I have to use simple observations, estimations, and assumptions to fuel my argument. In no way am I attempting to pass them off as fact (though it may seem so to you), I am simply using what I am provided with. If you can tell me that I'm wrong, then I will gladly re-consider my argument, and create a new one based on whatever facts you can supply to me in your own argument, but until you submit an argument to me, mine is the only one.
"You have to have the proper qualifications to judge things for *others*."
I don't see how bombpaw is judging the game for anyone other than himself. But he is putting his judgement onto the S&I forum in hopes that others share his views and will agree that the game in general would be better if it were changed.
""Hey guys, I am Joe Nobody, in an Alt, but I know more than all of you" Yeah? No."
I am not trying to imply my own superiority in a place which I have little to none, I am simply putting in my own viewpoint for others to consider.
I ask you to give forth a valid argument as a response to my own original argument, rather than just giving vague arguments which provide nothing for anyone to base a rebuttal off of without facts that we aren't provided with. |
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SorcusForum ModeratorJoin Date: 2010-11-29
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The point here is, my argument is valid. Because if I say that your statistics is wrong, it is wrong. Because you don't have any in the first place.
Bombpaw is not judging others ----> " Please ROBLOX, Limit the amount of hats you make. It's driving the veterans and a lot of the newbies CRAZY!" Clearly, this isn't judging. Clearly you haven't read what he typed.
So, take a few minutes, go back and read it again. Thanks.
Last but not least, your original argument is invalid. As I put it clearly, its a wall of text, which doesn't in anyway provide relevancy. Because as you mentioned you use simple observations, blah, blah blah, to try and come up with an argument. You talk about hiring, as if you know what we do here. You don't. You say there is 1 or more person just dedicated to making hats, as if you know that. You don't. Nor is it true. Argument invalidated. Next.
P.S. Jason, its 1:15 AM here :) I sleep very late, as you can see.
~Sorcus
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bombpawJoin Date: 2009-03-15
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Aaaboy97Join Date: 2009-04-05
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Don't try to argue with a moderator. They're usually right. |
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But isn't Sorcus a developer? D: |
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Pichu7245Join Date: 2009-05-17
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Emphasis on "usually" |
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Aaaboy97Join Date: 2009-04-05
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"But isn't Sorcus a developer? D:"
He is, but...
*looks at the big red text under Sorcus' username* |
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Yes. That means that he is provided with facts and statistics that we can't look at. |
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LPGhatguyForum ModeratorJoin Date: 2008-06-27
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@Sorcus
Who *does* make hats? I don't keep track of all the ingoing/outgoing interns and all of the new developers. |
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I thought it was Telamon.
Oh wait, I think he's gear. |
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liavkr104Join Date: 2008-11-02
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Sorcus wins. |
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We're being invaded by C&G idiots. |
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"We're being invaded by C&G idiots."
C&Gers, yes.Idiots, no. |
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liavkr104Join Date: 2008-11-02
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Idiot? Do I hear personal-assault. ROBLOX is free to forum in all of the forums, iven on Mac Support. And I don't have a Mac. So yeah, that's a leginimate answer to you'r question.
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Obvious C&Ger is obvious above me. ^.^ |
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Scripting Helpers don't help much (obviously) so I am coming here to learn and watch what you guys do. |
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@Gavin, actually we do help. We help alot. You just have to post a broken script in Scripting Helpers and then we attempt a fix. You can't just post a script and say it is broken, you have to tell us the error. You can't just say "I want you to make me"... You have to attempt it yourself first.
@Sorcus, I find WFDR's argument valid. He has got these 'facts' from over ROBLOX. They actually float around all the time. Anyway its true, I think ROBLOX's gaming could be better if you had more developers then mesh editors. There are 2 hats a day on average. I think that 100+ pages of hats is enough. Sure you have been working on Mega/Epic places to allow 100 people, but that would cause alot of lag! Unless you plan on drastically updating the rendering system with it, then I don't really support that update. I think we have enough Hats/Gears. Do you really need to make 2 or more hats a day. Sure sometimes we go 2-5 days without any hats, but you still don't need to make them as often. Look at my character, it is wearing 2 hats. Now I could leave it looking like that for months or even years, without having to change my look. And if I did change it then it would only need to wear 1 or 2 different hats. Maybe not even a different hat but different clothing. You see what I'm getting at? With over 150 pages of hats on ROBLOX's profile, and 15 hats per page. That's about 2, 250 hats that we can buy. Some might be off sale but still alot. Do we really need more? That is my agreement to WFDR's statement/argument.
I find imploding more efficient than exploding
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