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I am personally against it. How but you all? |
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You are against millions of new jobs in usa?
Plutocrat.
We will just ship all our oil to germany k?
You can buy from iran. |
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I would like if it was American. I support Drill here, Drill now not Drill in Canada, Not Iran.
Besides I am free marketer, go oil, go green energy. |
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Also the company says all several thousand jobs would be created for construction, about 10% of that would remain after completion for operation.
That's many jobs. |
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My point is made even further. |
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You did not make that point.
Meh, we cna sell oil elsewhere, hope you enjoy buying from Iran and Venezuela |
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There is nothing wrong with buying oil from Canada. Canada is okay. Canada's an ally. |
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No we will enjoy getting oil from Texas, Alaska and our shores. |
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But it is Canadian. That's the problem. I want American oil/energy and I want it now.
I WANT IT MADE IN AMERICA!!!
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Energy independence is a concern because of the significant portion of it that comes from nations that are, to put it lightly, questionable, like Saudi Arabia. Canada is no such threat. Canada is a friend. |
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There is no threat of that, twigs. Leaks are easy to seal above land. The Deep Water Horizon was a problem because it was exactly that, deep water. |
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But it gives them a stake in us. Which is bad. You are justifying things by saying they are our friends so its okay. This is an extreme example but your logic is like I will Anthony my social security and bank account numbers because I have known him for 'x' amount of years. Canada will use this against.
We cannot preach energy independance and then not follow through as soon as we are thrown with something closer but not it. That's disingenious and unfair. We must have complete energy independance if we are to remain economic hegemon. |
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Canada is inseparable from us, Jericho. Both geographically and economically. They always will have a stake in us,
This is an extreme example but your logic is like I will Anthony my social security and bank account numbers because I have known him for 'x' amount of years. Canada will use this against.
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Yes, that's a very extreme example. We already buy oil from Canada, and they don't use it against us. Issue solved.
We cannot preach energy independance and then not follow through as soon as we are thrown with something closer but not it. That's disingenious and unfair. We must have complete energy independance if we are to remain economic hegemon.
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Then I don't support energy independence. Woopwoopwoop. |
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Yes but we don't have miles upon miles of pipeline running through our country owned by Canada.
I never said we weren't, and I am not preaching independance from Canadian markets, I am promoting a dominant American position in Americo-Canadian trade relations.
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Can't the pipeline go around the aquifer? Is it that difficult?
Yes but we don't have miles upon miles of pipeline running through our country owned by Canada.
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Who cares?
I never said we weren't, and I am not preaching independance from Canadian markets, I am promoting a dominant American position in Americo-Canadian trade relations.
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A pipeline isn't a surrendur of autonomy, jericho. |
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>But it gives them a stake in us. Which is bad.
>Energy independance a
>We must have complete energy independance if we are to remain economic hegemony.
WTF are you talking about you communist? Get a stake in you? It's freed trade what america stands for, how dare are you promote the socialist hoax of Autarky!
Energy independence is no more then a socialist brainwashing tool from the left, who wish to turn usa towards slave labour!
THe invisible hand will decide where or not we purchase oil from Canada and it has decided, any government that interferes with an important free market practice is a communist government and should be overthrown via second amendment. |
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Who cares?
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Your example is useless because your making an incomparable in whole comparrison with a yet to happen thing and something that is but in different in set up completely.
A pipeline isn't a surrendur of autonomy, jericho.
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Give them an inch, they'll take a mile.
All it takes is one form of submission and they can pull the rug out from under your feet.
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Star wars analogy to illustrate my point above.
It's like Palpatine allowing the release of the death star II plans thinking his naval trap and garrisons would just lure them in and defeat them, instead the rebels own them and why? Plans releasement, one tiny submission ment decline and eventual defeat of a 23 year old superpower.
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Ugh. You sound like Werton. You think every country is out to get us. |
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>But it gives them a stake in us. Which is bad.
>Energy independance a
>We must have complete energy independance if we are to remain economic hegemony.
WTF are you talking about you communist? Get a stake in you? It's freed trade what america stands for, how dare are you promote the socialist hoax of Autarky!
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Energy independence is no more then a socialist brainwashing tool from the left, who wish to turn usa towards slave labour!
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THe invisible hand will decide where or not we purchase oil from Canada and it has decided, any government that interferes with an important free market practice is a communist government and should be overthrown via second amendment.
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Ugh. You sound like Werton. You think every country is out to get us.
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I believe that every nation is self interested and has one desire. To be number one. That does not mean I think every nation is out to get us. I believe that core principle if correct can be used to our favor as long as well play the pieces right. |
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>every nation is self interested and has one desire. To be number one.
I wish that were canada, we have such great potnetial, but we sit on it and do nothing. |
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