Ryplayer
#70723400Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM GMT

Greenland is a country in the same way Scotland, England, Wales and N.I. are countries. It is a country, sorry to disappoint you.
sinii
#70726629Monday, June 25, 2012 4:01 PM GMT

Scotland, England, Wales, and North Ireland are not independent countries. They're part of the country UK.
Ryplayer
#70727311Monday, June 25, 2012 4:12 PM GMT

They are still countries whether you like it or not.
AeLiSTaS3
#70727333Monday, June 25, 2012 4:13 PM GMT

I looked at a map of the above sea level land of Greenland. As it turns out it is one island, with a huge hole in the center area of the island, which is below sea level. --- I thought you were talking about Iceland. soz.
Ryplayer
#70727665Monday, June 25, 2012 4:18 PM GMT

"North Ireland" *Northern Ireland
Jay_Galt
#70727996Monday, June 25, 2012 4:24 PM GMT

Sovereign State does not entirely mean 'country'
wreton34
#70728497Monday, June 25, 2012 4:33 PM GMT

Pitcairn Islands. There's like a population of 50 people
sinii
#70730578Monday, June 25, 2012 5:04 PM GMT

"*Northern Ireland" Apparently it's very inappropriate to call it North Ireland.
Ryplayer
#70730733Monday, June 25, 2012 5:06 PM GMT

Well you can't, because no such place called 'North Ireland' exists. If anything, 'north Ireland' would be used to refer to the northern area of the ROI.
sinii
#70730815Monday, June 25, 2012 5:07 PM GMT

I can call that so-called "country" Northern Ireland whatever I please.
Ryplayer
#70731023Monday, June 25, 2012 5:10 PM GMT

I'm sorry, but you can't. I live ninety miles from it, it's just incorrect to call it that because it doesn't mean anything. Yes, it is a country, get used to it.
sinii
#70731111Monday, June 25, 2012 5:11 PM GMT

If I call it North Ireland with a capitalized N, then I mean "Northern" Ireland. If the N isn't capitalized, then you should assume I meant the north of Ireland Republic. It is not a country because it doesn't have sovereignty.
Ryplayer
#70731209Monday, June 25, 2012 5:13 PM GMT

"It is not a country because it doesn't have sovereignty." You fail to understand what we're saying, you just cannot grasp it. A country does not have to have sovereignty to be a country, end of discussion. You simply cannot argue otherwise.
sinii
#70731471Monday, June 25, 2012 5:17 PM GMT

You're only saying that I cannot argue otherwise because you can't think of anything else to use as an argument against me. Greenland, and other places you seem to think are countries, are simply not recognized worldwide as countries. Even with Greenland's autonomy, it is NOT fully recognized as an independent country quite yet. There are no countries within countries, that's just stupid. It'd be like cities within cities or provinces within provinces.
wreton34
#70731532Monday, June 25, 2012 5:18 PM GMT

Sinii +10
Ryplayer
#70731701Monday, June 25, 2012 5:21 PM GMT

International recognition or not, they are still countries. The definition of 'country' does not include a requirement for said area to be sovereign. I'm sorry, whether you like it or not, Greenland is a country, and will remain so.
sinii
#70732168Monday, June 25, 2012 5:28 PM GMT

Let's look at the eight requirements for being a country. -has space or territory which has internationally recognized borders -has people that live there on an ongoing basis -has economic activity and an organized economy (MOSTLY, but Greenland uses Danish currency and trade agreements remain the purview of Denmark) -has the power of social engineering, like education -has a transportation system for moving goods and people -has a government which provides public services and police power (MOSTLY, but Denmark is responsible for Greenland's defence) -has sovereignty (NO, Greenland is not sovereign) -has external recognition (NO, Greenland does not completely have recognition) It does not fit all the requirements. It is not a country.
Ryplayer
#70732443Monday, June 25, 2012 5:32 PM GMT

en.wiki pedia. org/wiki/Country
sinii
#70732622Monday, June 25, 2012 5:34 PM GMT

Implying Wikipеdia is a reliable source. geography. about. co m/od/greenland/ a/Greenland-Status.ht m
sinii
#70732719Monday, June 25, 2012 5:36 PM GMT

Hahaha, look what I found on Ryan's source!: The term "country" is commonly used to refer to sovereign states. There is no universal agreement on the number of "countries" in the world, seeing as a number of states have disputed sovereignty status.
Ryplayer
#70732760Monday, June 25, 2012 5:36 PM GMT

"Implying Wikipеdia is a reliable source." >citations >edit logs Yes, as a matter of fact, Wikipedia is a very reliable source.
Ryplayer
#70732883Monday, June 25, 2012 5:38 PM GMT

"Hahaha, look what I found on Ryan's source!: The term "country" is commonly used to refer to sovereign states. There is no universal agreement on the number of "countries" in the world, seeing as a number of states have disputed sovereignty status." While missing out the vast majority of the article, yes, that is what you have found. That's pretty strawman-ish of you, well done.
sinii
#70732911Monday, June 25, 2012 5:38 PM GMT

Wikipedia actually gives you links to sources that used Wikipedia for their information.
sinii
#70732963Monday, June 25, 2012 5:39 PM GMT

What's strawman-ish?
Pieguardian
#70736447Monday, June 25, 2012 6:23 PM GMT

Luxembourg? The Vatican? Luxembourg was a guess.