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Prequel in the late 60s/early 70s. Once again rebuild the old house. Have it show the sawyers lose their jobs and become insane. Bring back the HITCHHIKER FOR ONE LAST TIME. Explain who in the hell the other sawyers were in the opening of TC3D. Show why in the hell there's a oil well in the name of a Carson family and explain why these Carsons are related to the Sawyers.
AND FOR THE FINAL TIME. TAKE OUT THE SLASHER ELEMENTS. BRING BACK THE GRINDHOUSE REALISM FEEL. GET RID OF THE HIP HOP SOUNDTRACKS AND STOP MAKING US FEEL SYMPATHETIC FOR SKIN WEARING MANIACS.
But of course they wont do any of this because they're brain damaged and are too busy "making the true sequels to the original." |
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Never been much for the "Texas Chainsaw" movies, but I'm more for psychological horror. I love things that get under your skin and in your mind.
I don't like slasher movies (and most popular horror films/series) because I find it very disturbing that people are actually entertained by watching some masked murderer kill innocent people.
In reality, something like this would be a tragedy, but if it's a movie, it's entertainment.
I get that it's only a movie, but honestly, if people are actually entertained by such stuff, then maybe they themselves are psychopaths.
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The sequels are generic slashers except for maybe the 86 one.
But the original wasn't a slasher. It was more psychological. It wasn't mindless kills. It focused more on making your brain picture the terror and Gore. Like a book.
The ending with sally running across the highway as shes ruthlessly chased by the Hitchhiker and Leatherface is so surreal and in a way a beautiful ending to a horrible nightmare.
And the final shot of Leatherface twirling his saw as sally gets away laughing is breathtaking.
But I respect your opinions and I'm sure you respect mine. \m/ |
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You have certainly changed your tone, Les.
"I get that it's only a movie, but honestly, if people are actually entertained by such stuff, then maybe they themselves are psychopaths."
Then I'm a psychopath. |
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"But I respect your opinions and I'm sure you respect mine. \m/"
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Thank you, and yes, I respect your opinion. :-)
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How can you possibly enjoy watching innocent people being slashed and murdered?
It's just sickening, what most people enjoy.
Don't think I'm insulting your opinion, because I'm not, I just don't see how one can enjoy something so sick and vile.
I don't see why we should glorify the murder of people by making movies about it.
If it's about an investigation and trying to stop a killer, then I understand it. But when we make a movie to deliberately cheer on the sick creep, it's just sad and sick. |
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Its not so much the deaths we enjoy as it is how cheesy the films are.
And I agree ultra. Ive decided I don't really care much for the new film except the opening scene. And even then it failed because it tried to make us have sympathy for what should be cold and unrelenting not to mention mysterious/unknown psychopaths. |
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"It's just sickening, what most people enjoy."
I like to put myself into their situation and ask myself how would I react? Would I have a chance of survival? Horror pulls you in like no other genre that is why I like it.
"And even then it failed because it tried to make us have sympathy for what should be cold and unrelenting not to mention mysterious/unknown psychopaths."
We will most likely be getting a sequel, and what is established in 3D will probably continue in following films, with Leatherface being portrayed as the tragic victim. |
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"I like to put myself into their situation and ask myself how would I react? Would I have a chance of survival? Horror pulls you in like no other genre that is why I like it."
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That kind of mindset is perfect. However, we already know that basically everyone is going to die in the movie.
Horror movies are so predictable (at least, recent ones are).
It just seems like 90% of the people that go to horror movies go to watch people get cut up (not saying you do, just the majority of horror movie fans out there). I knew a guy who loved the "Friday the 13th" movies only because of Jason. Jason was like his hero, or something (it was kind of scary). A lot of people treat the bad guys as heroes.
At first, I don't think horror movies intended to do that, but over time, it seems they've just adjusted to it, and now most horror movies want us to root for the bad guy.
It's just something I can't do.
I wish more people would make horror movies that were unpredictable and psychological, but it seems the biggest horror fans just want gore. I don't get it.
This is just me, though. Maybe I take things too seriously...I don't know. |
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Honestly I'm similar to that guy you knew. I love Jason Voorhees. He's my favourite character in mainstream - for lack of a better word - horror. I have posters, and figures, of him, and such, but that doesn't mean I root for him in each film it just means I like the character, and his background is gripping especially when you find out that bullies are essentially responsible for each and every murder that took place since his initial death.
I agree that recent horror films are predictable, but I think the reason is that no one is taking the genre seriously anymore. I do believe the genre will continue to thrive in the format of video games, but even so, horror video games are becoming increasingly rare in quality.
My favourite horror sub-genre is psychological horror. It puts you into the mindset of character, as they try to survive whatever scenario is thrown at them. |
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I'm with you ultra. Jason is like the only thing I have fun drawing. Draw him all the time. Hell I even made that one Jason lamp.
But horror has always had ten to twenty year intervals where its just dead.
Then there's a period of reinvention
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"Honestly I'm similar to that guy you knew. I love Jason Voorhees. He's my favourite character in mainstream - for lack of a better word - horror. I have posters, and figures, of him, and such, but that doesn't mean I root for him in each film it just means I like the character, and his background is gripping especially when you find out that bullies are essentially responsible for each and every murder that took place since his initial death.
I agree that recent horror films are predictable, but I think the reason is that no one is taking the genre seriously anymore. I do believe the genre will continue to thrive in the format of video games, but even so, horror video games are becoming increasingly rare in quality.
My favourite horror sub-genre is psychological horror. It puts you into the mindset of character, as they try to survive whatever scenario is thrown at them."
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That's all right.
It's a bit different with my friend, I mean, he treated Jason like he was some type of hero. He basically worshipped the guy.
I haven't played many horror video games, but "Doom 3" would be my favorite.
From what I know, it's a bit different than the typical horror video game, but it can be scary (to me, of course).
Maybe I find it so scary because I'm afraid of Hell, and since it's about an invasion from Hell (and then you have to physically go to Hell), it frightens me a lot.
Agreed, I love psychological horror. I love things that mess with your mind.
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"But horror has always had ten to twenty year intervals where its just dead.
Then there's a period of reinvention
And then back to death."
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A lot of genres seem to do that, but horror seems to be the one that does it the most frequently.
Like Ultra said, it seems no one takes the genre seriously anymore.
Maybe someone, someday, will come along and give us an actual horror movie. Or maybe there is one out there. |
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Doom 3, is awesome. I know a lot of people prefer the earlier Doom titles, but the third was able to capture the psychological threat, as well as the physical, for example: when you're in Hell, and you see those corpses hung on the walls, as if they were meat, to be purchased by other demons, it gave me the creeps.
I'm not a religious individual, but if Hell is anything like it is portrayed in Doom, then God save me.
I think you would like the Hellblazer series. It's about the supernatural, and one's battle against personal demons. You should ignore the film, with Keanu Reeves though. You might also like the television show: "Supernatural" about hunters who go around taking out demons. The two of them provide a psychological take on classical mythology
"But horror has always had ten to twenty year intervals where its just dead.
Then there's a period of reinvention
And then back to death."
So that would roughly be 2003 - 2010; with all those remakes, horror was definitely brought back to a different audience. We're now in the dead zone, shouldn't be too long. |
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"Doom 3, is awesome. I know a lot of people prefer the earlier Doom titles, but the third was able to capture the psychological threat, as well as the physical, for example: when you're in Hell, and you see those corpses hung on the walls, as if they were meat, to be purchased by other demons, it gave me the creeps.
I'm not a religious individual, but if Hell is anything like it is portrayed in Doom, then God save me.
I think you would like the Hellblazer series. It's about the supernatural, and one's battle against personal demons. You should ignore the film, with Keanu Reeves though. You might also like the television show: "Supernatural" about hunters who go around taking out demons. The two of them provide a psychological take on classical mythology"
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Agreed. "Doom 3" was brilliant, in my mind. A lot of people turn their noses to it because it had jump scares, but honestly, those were to keep you alert and on edge. "Doom 3" had a lot of psychological elements to it, as well. The atmosphere was so unrelentingly creepy, I had to actually take breaks when playing the game because I got so stressed out from being creeped out.
It was amazing, and the Hell segment was one of the best moments in any game.
My mother gets confusesd with me, because I love playing "Doom 3," even though it gives me the creeps.
As you can see from my main group, I am a religious one, so the Hell thing really grips me because, in my mind, there is such a place. The thought of being in such a place is just...horrifying.
Thanks for the recommendation, I will check it out. I might have seen the movie, though. I think it was called "Constantine."
If that was it, then it was an all right movie. It wasn't that great, and honestly, I didn't like it the first time I saw it. But I watched it a few more times, and eventually liked it. |
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The demon designs were pretty creepy as well.
They're making a fourth game apparently, and it will be set on Earth after "The Apocalypse" so I think Hell will be making another appearance.
Yeah, it's a fun action film, but it has nothing in common, with the actual comics. It was all right until they brought out "The Holy Shotgun" it got cheesy from then on. The comics are about a chain-smoking British sorcerer who looks remarkably like Sting, who is often pulled into situations he can't handle, a la, John McClane, from the Die Hard series. He's a self-proclaimed prick, but a lovable one.
Supernatural is one of the best shows on television, with Season 4 - 5 focusing on The Apocalypse and Lucifer. If you're into that type of thing you should check it out.
I don't want to come across as a creepy old guy on the internet, but you're fun to talk too, man. |
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"The demon designs were pretty creepy as well.
They're making a fourth game apparently, and it will be set on Earth after "The Apocalypse" so I think Hell will be making another appearance.
Yeah, it's a fun action film, but it has nothing in common, with the actual comics. It was all right until they brought out "The Holy Shotgun" it got cheesy from then on. The comics are about a chain-smoking British sorcerer who looks remarkably like Sting, who is often pulled into situations he can't handle, a la, John McClane, from the Die Hard series. He's a self-proclaimed prick, but a lovable one.
Supernatural is one of the best shows on television, with Season 4 - 5 focusing on The Apocalypse and Lucifer. If you're into that type of thing you should check it out.
I don't want to come across as a creepy old guy on the internet, but you're fun to talk too, man."
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Yeah, they were. Especially the Hell Knight. That guy gave me the chills.
His presence in the game was very intimidating, especially because you could hear him stomping around, and in that moment, you knew he was near. I actually had a nightmare that I was being chased by him…
Yeah, I heard about that. Sounds like "Doom 4" should be good, especially if it's set on Earth. It will be like "Doom II," but I hope they have a lot of horror elements. I know that they've already said it's going to be more action-oriented, but I would love for them to keep the horror elements. Surely, an invasion from Hell would be freaky. I mean, Hell is supposed to be a place of eternal suffering, so if Hell invaded Earth, I doubt the demons would just stand around for us to shoot; they’d probably use fear as their weapon. That’s just my opinion, of course.
Yeah, the shotgun was kinda silly, and the movie sort of lost me after that. I kinda got bored with it.
I will check out the comics, though. They sound very interesting.
I've heard about "Supernatural," I've just never checked it out. I will be sure to, now. It sounds very appealing.
Haha, I'm not some creepy old guy. Unless you count 20 as old, then in that case, I am old. But I don't think I'm creepy. I'm not some pervert, if that's what you're afraid of.
(For the record, I play ROBLOX at 20 because I love building. I post on the forums because there's not much else for me to do.)
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Just imagine being trapped in a room, with the Hell Knight. There's literally no place to go, and he looks at you, with his deformed face, and cracks a smile. He's going to kill you ... very slowly. That's what I loved about the game. It put you into the mindset of a survivor ... screw the haters, eh?
Action-orientation is not the way to go, for that type of scenario IMO. It would be cool if they brought in some personal matters like you are trying to protect your family. Sure, there can be action, with armies, and such blasting demonic portals, but it should still maintain that psychological element.
You're twenty? I'm half your age! I honestly did not expect you to be that old (not saying that's old obviously, but I'm tired, and lacking the right words right now.) |
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Did you just say you're 10? I thought you were like 17.
My mind's blown. |
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"Just imagine being trapped in a room, with the Hell Knight. There's literally no place to go, and he looks at you, with his deformed face, and cracks a smile. He's going to kill you ... very slowly. That's what I loved about the game. It put you into the mindset of a survivor ... screw the haters, eh?
Action-orientation is not the way to go, for that type of scenario IMO. It would be cool if they brought in some personal matters like you are trying to protect your family. Sure, there can be action, with armies, and such blasting demonic portals, but it should still maintain that psychological element.
You're twenty? I'm half your age! I honestly did not expect you to be that old (not saying that's old obviously, but I'm tired, and lacking the right words right now.)"
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Oh, gosh, that would be my Hell. Being trapped with a Hell Knight would just be...well, there are no words to express my fear of that.
Ever since I had that nightmare, I haven't been able to look at the Hell Knight without being reminded of that dream. I know it's childish, but I can't help but be consumed by fear when I encounter the Hell Knight when playing the game.
It's a good thing, though; it helps with the atmosphere, and makes the game even creepier.
Exactly, screw the haters. I loved that about the game, as well. It worked very well, and I love feeling like I'm in the character's shoes.
That's what works better in games than movies. With a movie, you're just watching everything, whereas, with a game, you're experiencing it.
I think that, for the next Doom game, they should have a character that you're supposed to protect. In "Doom 3," there's a small part where a scientist is escorting you through a dark lab, and demons appear and try to kill you both.
The only thing is, you don't HAVE to protect the scientist, it's more of a recommendation.
I think there should be a character (maybe family, like you said) that the character HAS to protect. If that person dies, you lose the game. It's just something I think would be interesting.
You're right, though, action-orientation is not the way to go. That may have worked with the original Doom games, but they were back in the '90s, when you couldn't really do all that much. Now, there's so much more they could do.
Psychological horror is just the way they should go, in my mind.
Haha, I know you're not calling me old. I understand what you mean.
I'm with Leslie, though, I didn't think you were that young. You act very mature for your age. |
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I agree completely, with everything you have said.
Well, honestly, I can't wait for news on the game, but we haven't heard anything since early 2012 where they told various game websites that these linked images were not a part of their game, and when you see something it will blow you away ... I was hoping the re-release of Doom 3, would eventually lead into something more, but nope. :-(
And, apologies I'm actually 15. I was half-awake when I wrote the previous comment words tend to get jumbled up when I'm tired. |
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On May 5th ill be turning 15.
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"I agree completely, with everything you have said.
Well, honestly, I can't wait for news on the game, but we haven't heard anything since early 2012 where they told various game websites that these linked images were not a part of their game, and when you see something it will blow you away ... I was hoping the re-release of Doom 3, would eventually lead into something more, but nope. :-(
And, apologies I'm actually 15. I was half-awake when I wrote the previous comment words tend to get jumbled up when I'm tired."
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Thanks for agreeing.
I can't wait, either. Yeah, I saw the leaked images and got excited, then I found out they weren't part of the game, so that was kind of a bummer.
I'm hoping that, whenever they release something, it will actually blow me away. I'm looking forward to it, but I'm hoping we don't have another "Duke Nukem Forever" on our hands.
I hoped that the BFG edition of "Doom 3" would have something like a teaser for the new Doom, but there's nothing. Well, nothing from what I can find online. I don't actually have the BFG edition, so I can't know for sure. But if it did include something about the new Doom game, it would be all over the internet. So I'm guessing there's nothing.
No apology necessary, mistakes happen.
You still act mature for your age. When I was 15, that's when I joined ROBLOX, I wasn't very mature. XD |
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“Agreed with Johnny. When I make jokes about death its very unrealistic and highly comical. But this is very disturbing.”
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Thanks. I don’t make jokes about death too often, but on those rare occasions when I do, it’s not something that anyone could take seriously.
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“But anywaaay wouldn't slasher movies be considered very unrealistic and highly comical?”
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In a sense, I guess so, but death is something I think should be taken seriously. So when innocent people are being slaughtered in a slasher film in comical ways, I find it a bit too much. If someone’s going to be killed in a movie, I think it should be taken seriously.
Death isn’t a joke, and slasher films make death out to be a joke (not all slasher films, but the majority of them. I have the same problem with dark comedies, as well).
If there were a real man running around in a hockey mask cutting people up, we would want the person executed. We would want that person to pay for the horrid acts he’s done. It would be seen as a tragedy.
But, in the movies, we’re basically cheering on a psychopath. I’ve already gone over this, but I just find it disturbing how people go to horror movies and cheer on the bad guy. What’s the point?
Maybe I feel like this because I think of those what would be effected by something like this happening. When someone dies in a movie, I think of the families, friends, etc. that would be effected if something like it were to really happen.
I’m not trying to say you should feel the same way as I do, I’m just explaining my mindset. |
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