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lol i 4got idk
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romuluzJoin Date: 2010-04-12
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1) nice assumptions. I can actually easily afford things with the price floor as I currently have 51k robux and used to have OBC until about 50k in limiteds and I used to have OBC but have decided to cancel it about a week ago as I disliked what roblox was doing and didn't want my money going towards a company that obviously does not care what I have to say.
2) id like to know specifics as I'm finding this hard to believe. My account for example was stolen inbeknownst to me an due to some ridiculous rule that I could find no where else listed on their site, I lost nearly 100k in items. I've also had friends who have seen extra charges made on their cards and similar issues as myself with no support from the staff whatsoever. So, sorry. Finding this hard to believe.
3) lastly it was not a glitch that allowed nbc players to create clothes! It was part of their policy that NBC players could make clothes but could not sell them. Where are people getting this bull? |
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trainyayJoin Date: 2012-01-19
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no. |
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romuluzJoin Date: 2010-04-12
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Oh also should mention the times they actually listen to the community and come up with a really cool update they announce and meet actually flow through with it, such as the whole clan territories update. Really annoying. |
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trainyayJoin Date: 2012-01-19
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nobody knows us better than ROBLOX themselves. |
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romuluzJoin Date: 2010-04-12
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God damn auto correct.
Make an awesome update and then fail to follow through with it.* |
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I wasn't talking about you specifically about price floors. Do realize not everyone has 50k
ROBLOX has helped me out with card issues, and loss of robux issues.
I was charged twice on my card for BC, and I emailed them and they refunded me back to my account. The other instance was when I had limited items stolen from me when I was younger and dumber and fell for the ROBLOXSEC. thing. The user took my items, but I emailed them and got a partial amount of it back, and the user was deleted.
They never had a "policy" saying that NBC'ers could upload clothing to the group store, and not sell it. People were abusing this power, and basically stealing clothes so they didn't have to pay for it. So they did the most logical thing and removed that availability to them.
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romuluzJoin Date: 2010-04-12
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Also I love how all of you are only bringing up on bad example to a company being bought out and don't turn and look at the good examples such as planetside 2, which didn't really get that much bad backlash from being purchased.
Also, I understand that not all companies that purchase a company have a say which I why I specifically mentioned it in the OP. You all should really learn to do that. |
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AeralonJoin Date: 2011-08-28
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Well, if Apple wanted to join the gaming industry like Microsoft they could buy Roblox! Apple would MASTER this game and listen to EVERYTHING we want! Honestly the admins currently NEVER listen to us example: new friends system. They claimed we asked for it, but we didn't. |
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Those are other games, not a massive community of ever changingness.
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When have they said we asked for the new friends system? They just implimented it because it's THEIR site.
I like it.
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You guys say they "NEVER" listen to the coummunity, but they do. There's thousands of usr that suggest new things everyday. Not every idea is good, but there are some they should take a look at. You're basically saying they're incapable of listening to us at all, soooo... they should just sell the company so some random people can make some changes?
Okeee
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1- The pinned post in ATR yesterday
2- The wiki
3- The builders club purchase page
4- The builders club purchase page near the time I joined
5- The builders club purchase on any year you check utilising Wayback machine
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romuluzJoin Date: 2010-04-12
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Yes they did.
As a '13er you obviously didn't know about it, although it did exist well into 2013, and i believe quite a few months into '14. Again I bring up my friend who without any form of bc was able to upload shirts and pants to his account, but not sell them.
Also, if you weren't referring to me then why did you specifically say "you" when you said that people couldn't afford it? You obviously were referring to me, but while we are on that topic, no I don't find it fair that a lot of NBC players need to wait 20 days to purchase a matching shirt and pants outfit. Makes it incredibly hard for clan owners too, and has helped contribute to the downfall of the once massive clans community, which in turn sort of hurts roblox has a whole. Price floor was a completely wretched update that was implemented solely for the purpose of making clothing makers richer, and to push people into purchasing BC, but the funny thing is is that clothing makers initially had a bad reaction to price floors too, but roblox being stubborn as ever still refused to listen to the community.
Also when did I ever mention the friend system as a bad update? I know I never mentioned it here nor anywhere else on the forums nor did I specifically care about the update and held no opinions, positive or negative about the update. I personally disliked their consistent useless UI updates to the website more than that.
Furthermore, I really do want you to find one update in the last year that was made due to a suggestion here, because I'm finding it hard to find one. I realize that there are thousands of suggestions here and anything as simple as that you don't need to explain to me as I already realize this. But this is no excuse to them being hard headed and refusing to remove unpopular updates, and completely ignoring updates players suggest that have massive support. To be honest dude, I think the last major update that came from the players that they implemented was the trade system. And that was a while ago.
Lastly, while I am happy you had a good experience I want you to know that your experience is far from common. I've had a few bad experiences with them when it comes to this sort of thing along with a load of friends and strangers I've read having very similar experiences to my own.
Also, here are a few MORE unfortunate changes to roblox:
-Removal of gear fridays and hat weekends(They come very scarcely now and do not have the same number of limiteds as previous years.
-Sales(While the first two years of sales brought in a lot of cool limiteds, we see mostly timed items, a bunch of new non limited items and maybe a few limiteds here and there.)
-Ad skewing(System is now skewed so that only the rich can afford to be represented well on the ad system, requiring at least 10k for any form of quality representation instead of 1k. Also helped bring about the downfall of clans community).
-The very existence of their WNTS. If they wish to view this forum with an open mind they shouldn't come out with the mindset of "We're not removing ANY unpopular update!" as while, yes, some of the complaints are unreasonable they can very well ignore those without putting an outright ban on not removing any unpopular update.
There are possibly a few others but they aren't coming to mind now or were already mentioned earlier. Now, before anyone starts touting off "Roblox is a company so it needs to make money!" please do know I realize this, which is why I didn't include such updates as ads for nbc, as I completely see the reason behind some of their updates.
Also @the guy who suggested apple: I'm not entirely sure if Apple would be the way to go, although MS is a possibility. I've liked how they've handled XBL for the most part. |
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romuluzJoin Date: 2010-04-12
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Also thomas, I too would like to know when they pinned the friends system on a players suggestion?
Because, even though I wouldn't be surprised as they pulled a similar antic with price floor which ultimately blew up in their face, I don't recall them ever pinning the new friends system on a user suggestion too. |
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SproggiesJoin Date: 2015-04-13
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Agreed. Honestly, around 1 year ago I was going back and forth about developing here on roblox or unity.
I chose unity, and I'm glad I did. If you're planning on game development, roblox isn't even the best "simple" choice. |
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This is my new main,my previous one was made in 2009, but has been terminated.
The price floor didn't blow up in there face because I know plenty of people who have bought, bc or robux just to purchase more clothes, and hats.
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romuluzJoin Date: 2010-04-12
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Yeah it kind of did, for one, they justified it by saying that BC clothing sellers wanted to make more money, when not even a week later several well known clothing devs stepped forward and stated they never wanted this update, and would rather see more people wearing their clothing.
Also while a few of your friends may have bought it I can guarantee you that many more potential customers left roblox entirely and many more ceased paying for builders club in retaliation, myself included albeit it's more due to a build up of events. Furthermore, price floor can be attributed to the ticket inflation as many NBCers are allowing their tickets to build up before spending or simply aren't spending as much at all due to the insane prices. It's actually funny because instead of eliminating the source of the problem, roblox is implementing many more unpopular updates such as ad skewing to try to make price floors work and still are failing epicly. I'd actually be a lot less pissed at roblox if it weren't for price floors as there are a lot of other updates I mentioned here that were implemented in part because of price floor. |
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NerdyTeaJoin Date: 2010-03-30
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I say you're just whining about the "bad" updates and "greedy" workers.
ROBLOX has an amazing interaction with the player base. They do Twitch streams, they play with other players on ROBLOX, they feature players on the blog, they do a lot of things for us.
This is practically cancer with you guys now.
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I'd like to see these statistics on the amount of people retaliating, not spending tix, quitting ROBLOX because of "bad" updates...
None of what you're saying is being supported by any facts.
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@instant You got a point. |
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Lego universe was so cool lol
I remember playing that so much..
Sadly, since they made it so epic, they lost all their money.
( they also made it so people who didn't pay could do pretty much anything ) |
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romuluzJoin Date: 2010-04-12
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Neither are your claims of pretty much the same thing but the opposite. And unfortunately neither you nor I hold the resources to actively measure go out, gather and measure these statistics and take the numbers to be used in a completely factual arguement.
Also @the dude who mentioned the twitch stuff, first off they can make money off of twitch, so that is profit for them. Second off, that's one of the things I view good about the company, however it does NOT make up for all of more shady things I've seen this company do, and trust me, out of all of the different companies I have played under this one is by far the most frustrating to deal with. |
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romuluzJoin Date: 2010-04-12
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" they also made it so people who didn't pay could do pretty much anything )"
Which is honestly the same route roblox has been slowly headed down these past two years. I actually wouldn't be shocked if building becomes a premium feature at some point and even maybe a full on transition to p2p or a system where nbc have to pay tickets to play games.(I've even seen it suggested here a couple of times.)
I mean one only needs to compare roblox 2012 to roblox 2015 to see this;
Price floors, NBC clothing removal, ad skewing all are pushing people to purchase BC so they can actually access parts of the game that were previously easily accessible for free. And again, yes I TOTALLY see that roblox is a company and needs to make money. But there are MANY better ways to achieve this such as releasing new features as strictly premium features as they did with bodies and the trading system and giving bc members beta benefits to new features, release more bc only hats, all combined with the already existing incentive to purchase bc to earn more money and pay for ads to attract traffic to your places. Especially when it comes to certain premium aesthetic differences, these are all tactics companies such as SOE employ to make good money on a F2P game. They don't need to take functions away from NBC, they only need to continue giving the cool stuff to BC members and they will achieve similar results without ticking off their fan-base.
Honestly I'm getting the idea that a lot of people defending these actions can't look at roblox from a critical standpoint, because, I'm sorry, no company is perfect and roblox is the farthest from it. Even companies I like such as Valve, MS, and SOE I'm not so blindly pro for them that I can't criticize the companies. They even do things here and there I dislike just the same as roblox, a company I commonly dislike right now still can do some good as well. This one especially goes out to the guy who seems to think that I believe EVERYTHING that roblox does is bad when I full on give them credit for the good they have done such as upgrades to studio and quick fixes to the bugs that arrived from that process and new building features to ensure more detailed builds. Yes, shocking coming from me, but I do believe that roblox has done some good updates in the past few years despite their nearly game breaking ones. |
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So you're basically telling the company who has brought this site to what it is now to sell the site to another company due to a few issues you do not like, that can be manipulated or removed whenever they choose to?
You talk about them losing members or potential members because of some minor issues, although the site has grown much more over the past few years?
Back to what I said earlier...
"I'd like to see these statistics on the amount of people retaliating, not spending tix, quitting ROBLOX because of "bad" updates..."
This was basically the thesis of your arguement, and if this was a debate you would be falling behind, and losing.
I do not need to bring up any statistics, nor do I really need to support them because the person who is [PRO] Change should be arguing why this change needs to happen.
If you can't support or validate your points no actions should be taken.
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